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Message: [QUOTE="kmart128, post: 2810170, member: 784"] Well that's just stupid. They hit the sign as they go out to the tunnel that says Play Like a Champion. Well in order to play like a champion they should want to compete for a championship which is something you can't do if you are stubborn and would rather maintain Independence rather than make playoffs. Literally if they think that way then ND staff and athletic department are going against everything they expect out of their student athletes which is disgraceful. They expect their athletes to play like a champion but the AD won't. And that would have to hurt from recruiting. Who would want to play for a team that has no chance at a championship. That's the ultimate goal and should be for every team [/QUOTE]