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The UCLA story is already out of the news.

How long does this one hang around?
 
UCLA sucks. SU is a 1 seed. This lasts through the tournament.
 
My guess...I think this has a short news cycle. Everyone I talked to has the same reaction "so what?". Noone cares. By tonight, I doubt it gets mentioned. We will however have to deal with it accompanying any talk of us in the tournament.
 
EastCoast2 said:
UCLA sucks. SU is a 1 seed. This lasts through the tournament.
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That is my thinking as well. I don't think it has any real lasting legs but it won't disappear like UCLA because we are ranked #2.
 
It sort of gets mentioned but it won't be a big deal. The concern is that somewhere someone is going to group all of these things together and paint our program as a out of control program.
 
It will get mentioned with us all tournament as a quick blurb but at least we dont have to listen to all the SportsCenter anchors sit there in a douchey tone and talk about how "reckless" we apparantly are after they get it out of their system today.
 
longislandcuse said:
It will get mentioned with us all tournament as a quick blurb but at least we dont have to listen to all the SportsCenter anchors sit there in a douchey tone and talk about how "reckless" we apparantly are after they get it out of their system today.
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"Amidst child sex abuse and illicit drug scandals, #1 Syracuse stuggles to defeat #16 Loyala by 40."
 
If we don't make it out of the first weekend, "Distractions cost Boeheim and Syracuse" and everyone can discuss for another week...
 
Or would it be, "#1 Syracuse squeaks by a tough LIU team, barely defeating them by 48 points."
 
Gottlieb was already comparing us the UCLA last week when the UCLA story broke and this had yet to be announced. I wonder if he had advance notice that this story was about to break.
 
I think Doug knew it was coming down the pipe

it will be out of the news once we are done celebrating the championship
 
EastCoast2 said:
"Amidst child sex abuse and illicit drug scandals, #1 Syracuse stuggles to defeat #16 Loyala by 40."
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Im just waiting for the new explosive scandal in which Bernie Fine and an unidentified Assistant Coach going by the aliases "Santiago and Dunbar" sold weed to said minors under the code name "Banana Boat".
 
UCLA story is on hiatus, pending the end of their season and decision on Howland's future.
 
longislandcuse said:
My guess...I think this has a short news cycle. Everyone I talked to has the same reaction "so what?". Noone cares. By tonight, I doubt it gets mentioned. We will however have to deal with it accompanying any talk of us in the tournament.
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Who cares? Short news cycle? You guys are kidding yourselves. There has already been a notice of inquiry from the NCAA. This is the preliminary first step to an investigation by the NCAA. It is a direct result of SU self-reporting potential and, apparently, willful violations.

I have no idea what the eventual outcome will be, but this is not good and it will not simply disappear.
 
007 said:
Who cares? Short news cycle? You guys are kidding yourselves. There has already been a notice of inquiry from the NCAA. This is the preliminary first step to an investigation by the NCAA. It is a direct result of SU self-reporting potential and, apparently, willful violations.

I have no idea what the eventual outcome will be, but this is not good and it will not simply disappear.
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It was reported a year ago. The NCAA will investigate but I dont think this is major enough to really get all crazy about.
 
007 said:
Who cares? Short news cycle? You guys are kidding yourselves. There has already been a notice of inquiry from the NCAA. This is the preliminary first step to an investigation by the NCAA. It is a direct result of SU self-reporting potential and, apparently, willful violations.

I have no idea what the eventual outcome will be, but this is not good and it will not simply disappear.
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I totally agree. The cavalier attitude by some posters is odd. If in fact the university used ineligible players as reported it is serious. Does anyone know of any examples of this happening anywhere else, besides Baylor? And what were the penalties?
 
ORRange said:
I totally agree. The cavalier attitude by some posters is odd. If in fact the university used ineligible players as reported it is serious. Does anyone know of any examples of this happening anywhere else, besides Baylor? And what were the penalties?
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They were also deemed ineligible by our own standards of which we know none of the facts because Yahoo didnt report any. We werent playing players who were deemed ineligible by NCAA rules. Its a strange situation.
 
I'm not trying to be rude so please don't take this the wrong way.

This stays in the news exactly how long it takes for the NCAA to rule on it and if there are any sanctions, it will continue through that season.

Different situation, but UConn had their Yahoo news spread in 2009, it has been in the news since then. It took almost a year and a half for the NCAA to get to sanctions (March 2009-Feb 2011). Sanctions came into effect the season after.

The point of the previous paragraph, the NCAA does not work fast. If SU self-reported a few months ago, it may be next winter before the NCAA finalizes this.
 
It'll be mentioned at least as an aside in every article written about the basketball team for the rest of the tournament. Just like how the Fine scandal kept being mentioned until the press realized the Cuse would keep winning.
 
caw said:
I'm not trying to be rude so please don't take this the wrong way.

This stays in the news exactly how long it takes for the NCAA to rule on it and if there are any sanctions, it will continue through that season.

Different situation, but UConn had their Yahoo news spread in 2009, it has been in the news since then. It took almost a year and a half for the NCAA to get to sanctions (March 2009-Feb 2011). Sanctions came into effect the season after.

The point of the previous paragraph, the NCAA does not work fast. If SU self-reported a few months ago, it may be next winter before the NCAA finalizes this.
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According to the NCAA, SU reported this over a year ago. Who knows how long it will take to get resolved as the NCAA works on their own time frame.

This will last longer than the UCLA story because of the Bernie Fine story. ESPN even mentioned them in the same breath last night. This has essentially become a witch hunt and people in the media will not stop digging around SU for any dirt until JB gets fired or retires. Everyone out there wants to be the guy or girl who breaks the story that gets JB fired.
 
So can we just get rid of the stupid drug policy at SU? By NCAA rules, the schools aren't even required to have it.

How many of you think schools like UK implement it? Yeah right. Why risk costing us NCAA infractions with stupid 1950s policies on harmless substances. I just don't get it.

Oh well guess we'll see if NCAA actually does anything.
 
dollarbill44 said:
According to the NCAA, SU reported this over a year ago. Who knows how long it will take to get resolved as the NCAA works on their own time frame.

This will last longer than the UCLA story because of the Bernie Fine story. ESPN even mentioned them in the same breath last night. This has essentially become a witch hunt and people in the media will not stop digging around SU for any dirt until JB gets fired or retires. Everyone out there wants to be the guy or girl who breaks the story that gets JB fired.
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I had only read the press release not the second statement from the spokeswoman. It's a good thing Cuse is not a public university or this would have been in the press the past year or so.

I doubt the NCAA cares if this is Cuse's policy or theirs, they love the power trip.
 
ORRange said:
I totally agree. The cavalier attitude by some posters is odd. If in fact the university used ineligible players as reported it is serious. Does anyone know of any examples of this happening anywhere else, besides Baylor? And what were the penalties?
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Comparing this to Baylor is like comparing Fine to Sandusky. A player MURDERED another player at Baylor. They paid recruits. There were far more problems at Baylor.
 
bnoro said:
Comparing this to Baylor is like comparing Fine to Sandusky. A player MURDERED another player at Baylor. They paid recruits. There were far more problems at Baylor.
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Someone on the Hill needs to be working overtime on the shreader. The exact quote should be "Due to student confidentiality testing records are destroyed after their eligibility is exhausted or they withdraw from school".
 
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