Conceptual design for Syracuse football's indoor practice facility plaza leaked on website

[jgeorge322]

Ernie played without a helmet?

no but he did wear nike cleats

 

[MadNY3]

we hit the big time boys

Syracuse, N.Y. — The Syracuse athletic department has been tight-lipped about its planned indoor practice facility, but renderings of three statues that could sit outside the IPF appear to have been released on the website Syracusefan.com.


http://www.syracuse.com/orangefootb...t_outside_syracuses_indoor_practice_faci.html

I will say...44 Plaza looks awful.

I hope we can do better than that.

 

[AZOrange]

we hit the big time boys

Syracuse, N.Y. — The Syracuse athletic department has been tight-lipped about its planned indoor practice facility, but renderings of three statues that could sit outside the IPF appear to have been released on the website Syracusefan.com.


http://www.syracuse.com/orangefootb...t_outside_syracuses_indoor_practice_faci.html

Embarrassing article. Local reporting at its best! Seems like author and SU rep struggle with the English language.

 

[llandz]

Jason did not make a mistake. The $13,000 is what is left that needs to be raised. Other money has been pledged already to the project. I inquired after my mother passed away last week. I was considering doing something special in her name and considered doing that donation. The $13k was a small part that was still needed. In the meantime I ended up requesting in her obituary that donations in her memory be made to the Ernie Davis fund, and am still looking for something small to do with her name on it. The $13k would most likely not have any plaque associated with it. The total raised was substantially more, with a few large donors already involved. My Mom graduated from Syracuse in 1949 and we went to football games every year, and she is the reason for my being on this board today. She was the beginning of my love of Syracuse and of Syracuse sports.
That article also makes me mad (wanted to use stronger language here, but did not want to get banned). Jason does an excellent job of reaching out to people in ways that involve everyone. He has been an extreme asset for fund raising, and looks for creative ways to get the money coming in.

 

[Shrmdougluvr]

I'll probably be the only one to say it, but these statutes are an incredible waste of money. They do nothing to advance the program, which is the sole purpose for the IPF.

Brown, Davis and Little were all remarkable players, but the false idol worship (figuratively speaking, i get that no one is equating these men to God) needs to stop. Their number is retired. Ernie Davis already has a statute and a field named after him. Jim Brown is in the college and pro hall of fames, and is universally considered a top 3 player of all time, and a top 5 athlete (he'd be even more widely revered if he didnt have a penchant for smacking around women). Little is also a dual hall of famer, and has a pretty sweet patronage job to boot.

Use the money to buy x-boxs. Get better/more training equipment. Tint every window orange. Put cararra marble floors in the locker rooms with radiant heating. Stick a flat screen in every locker. Hell, plant citrus trees in the atrium and offer fresh juice. Set up a video conferencing center. Buy an oxygen chamber. Do anything that will make a recruit say "wow," or "#dead" or whatever kids say these days. "Syracuse is where i want to play."

It's fine to wink at the past so the kids have an understanding that SU was once big time, and will be that way again. But creating a monument park is pretentious. Spend the money to develop the players, or to draw some five star kid who could become the next Jim Brown, John Mackey, Jim Ringo, John Mackey, Larry Csonka, Floyd Little, Ernie Davis, Tim Green, Art Monk, Marvin Harrison, Dwight Freeney or Donovan McNabb. That's what the program really needs.

 

[javadoc]

Brown, Davis and Little were all remarkable players, but the false idol worship (figuratively speaking, i get that no one is equating these men to God) needs to stop. Their number is retired. Ernie Davis already has a statute and a field named after him. Jim Brown is in the college and pro hall of fames, and is universally considered a top 3 player of all time, and a top 5 athlete (he'd be even more widely revered if he didnt have a penchant for smacking around women). Little is also a dual hall of famer, and has a pretty sweet patronage job to boot.

The statues are a good reminder for today's kids who might not know about the players, and it bring the players "to life" better than any plaque or written encomium. Plus, it puts them "out there" to be seen whenever one passes by.

As long as we're playing games in a glorified coliseum, statuary is fine by me.

 

[Rocco]

Once again, Syracuse.com furthers its position as the most classless in the business. Why try and create completely unnecessary drama within the AD? Oh I know... because the coaching staff will not allow them to get close to the program to actually write meaningful, FOOTBALL-related articles. That bridge has been burned because of ignorant articles like these.

Here's an idea Syracuse.com: why don't you try and amend your relationship with the coaches/program and stop coming off as their enemies? Maybe then you can focus on getting us behind-the-scene articles on player development, potential 1st/2nd/3rd teams on the depth chart or write material about the players' and coaches' histories and their respective motivations.

Articles with a negative slant such as this one on Jason Poles are completely ludicrous and do NOTHING to advance the program.

P.S. Stop reading our board for your stories. K, thanks.

 

[anomander]

I'll probably be the only one to say it, but these statutes are an incredible waste of money. They do nothing to advance the program, which is the sole purpose for the IPF.

Brown, Davis and Little were all remarkable players, but the false idol worship (figuratively speaking, i get that no one is equating these men to God) needs to stop. Their number is retired. Ernie Davis already has a statute and a field named after him. Jim Brown is in the college and pro hall of fames, and is universally considered a top 3 player of all time, and a top 5 athlete (he'd be even more widely revered if he didnt have a penchant for smacking around women). Little is also a dual hall of famer, and has a pretty sweet patronage job to boot.

Use the money to buy x-boxs. Get better/more training equipment. Tint every window orange. Put cararra marble floors in the locker rooms with radiant heating. Stick a flat screen in every locker. Hell, plant citrus trees in the atrium and offer fresh juice. Set up a video conferencing center. Buy an oxygen chamber. Do anything that will make a recruit say "wow," or "#dead" or whatever kids say these days. "Syracuse is where i want to play."

It's fine to wink at the past so the kids have an understanding that SU was once big time, and will be that way again. But creating a monument park is pretentious. Spend the money to develop the players, or to draw some five star kid who could become the next Jim Brown, John Mackey, Jim Ringo, John Mackey, Larry Csonka, Floyd Little, Ernie Davis, Tim Green, Art Monk, Marvin Harrison, Dwight Freeney or Donovan McNabb. That's what the program really needs.

AMEN

We are going to get a lot further having leather seats in the conference rooms, or leather sofa's, and x-box's in the lounge then a bunch of statues of guys we already have statues and have honored up the arse.

 

[MadNY3]

Jason did not make a mistake.

That article also makes me mad (wanted to use stronger language here, but did not want to get banned). Jason does an excellent job of reaching out to people in ways that involve everyone. He has been an extreme asset for fund raising, and looks for creative ways to get the money coming in.

Jason Poles is great for coming here. Not sure how effective he is in his overall job, but if he uses the same intuiti0n as he does here, I bet he does well.

 

[Libero2]

AMEN

We are going to get a lot further having leather seats in the conference rooms, or leather sofa's, and x-box's in the lounge then a bunch of statues of guys we already have statues and have honored up the arse.

You guys must be getting old... Xbox's are sooooo last gen, PS4s are where it's at bro.

In my opinion, you need some balance. You need the wow factor of the new nonsense amenities to get kids excited like what you and shrmDougLuv said, and wowing them with history. You want kids to know the program used to be amazing, and is building back towards that. Frankly, I think they should have other guys (more recents) up there, like McNabb, Freeney and maybe Harrison. Guys that these kids growing up will have seen play, and all could easily end up in the HOF some day.

Also, this might be a topic to bug Bam about. Yes he only represents one recruits family, but it might be interesting to know which he thinks would be more of a draw to kids. Especially since I think he is more into the "new age" stuff for recruits like the xboxes/ps4s and additional swag, since he is so UA heavy for Shy. If he were to think the history were more important that might be all that's needed to settle the argument.

 

[Jeepers]

I don't like statues for living people, but some kind of HOF plaque display would be nice. Personally, I always thought we lacked in the tradition department. So, I have no problem with them investing money there.

 

[SWC75]

I don't like statues for living people, but some kind of HOF plaque display would be nice. Personally, I always thought we lacked in the tradition department. So, I have no problem with them investing money there.

Why should people have to be dead to see a statue erected of them? it's not a funeral. It's like saying only dead players should be elected to the Hall of Fame.

 

[Millhouse]

i think we should take a break with statues. it used to be we just had one, abe lincoln. we don't need a lifesize statue of malik campbell's giant hands blocking out the sun

 

[Timonen]

I'll probably be the only one to say it, but these statutes are an incredible waste of money. They do nothing to advance the program, which is the sole purpose for the IPF.

Brown, Davis and Little were all remarkable players, but the false idol worship (figuratively speaking, i get that no one is equating these men to God) needs to stop. Their number is retired. Ernie Davis already has a statute and a field named after him. Jim Brown is in the college and pro hall of fames, and is universally considered a top 3 player of all time, and a top 5 athlete (he'd be even more widely revered if he didnt have a penchant for smacking around women). Little is also a dual hall of famer, and has a pretty sweet patronage job to boot.

Use the money to buy x-boxs. Get better/more training equipment. Tint every window orange. Put cararra marble floors in the locker rooms with radiant heating. Stick a flat screen in every locker. Hell, plant citrus trees in the atrium and offer fresh juice. Set up a video conferencing center. Buy an oxygen chamber. Do anything that will make a recruit say "wow," or "#dead" or whatever kids say these days. "Syracuse is where i want to play."

It's fine to wink at the past so the kids have an understanding that SU was once big time, and will be that way again. But creating a monument park is pretentious. Spend the money to develop the players, or to draw some five star kid who could become the next Jim Brown, John Mackey, Jim Ringo, John Mackey, Larry Csonka, Floyd Little, Ernie Davis, Tim Green, Art Monk, Marvin Harrison, Dwight Freeney or Donovan McNabb. That's what the program really needs.

I'm playing devil's advocate here, even though I completely get your point. The kids aren't the only audience for everything being built here. It's also for current and potential donors. If you create the emotional connection with those folks through their experience when back on campus, you have a chance to make the investment back exponentially. I think the formal tie to/celebration of history is perfectly in line with the overall strategy of building up our resources.