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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 4469633, member: 5685"] I think most people understand that 6 Ws is the minimum goal. The understand that we won't have many top half of the ACC recruiting classes. Those are our limitations as a program. But the HC can control how "well coached" the team is. The penalty situation is out of control. We cannot afford as a program to overcome shooting ourselves in the foot time and again. In conference games we are dead last and 2.3 penalties per game behind 13th place school. We have more than twice as many penalties as Wake, who runs more plays than anyone (632 vs our 469). In ACC games SU has ranked... 2022 14th 2021 tied 4th 2020 8th 2019 13th 2018 12th 2017 12th 2016 14th [/QUOTE]