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It will be over. Most games will be close to the 10 point mark but the occasional outbursts of 18 and perhaps as high as 28 will skew the average upwards and the genius of James Boeheims' recruiting acumen will become abundantly evident. This is the year Trevor Cooney starts fulfilling the promise that was seen by JB when he offered TC.
 
Agree the line is probably spot on. I'll say under...aaah, to be a cynical sports fan from Boston.
 
I'll take the under until he shows me he can consistently hit open 3's in real games.
 
I'll take the over. We'll need his scoring many nights, and his defensive effort and his ability to hit the three will translate into enough minutes to get him about 10 ppg.
 
OVER. Not by a lot. between 9-10pts.
That's exactly my projection as well. I was thinking in the 9.3-9.7 range.

Actually, I'll just go ahead and take a wild stab at scoring for everyone:

Fair - 15.6
Grant - 12.2
Cooney - 9.6
Ennis - 8.7
Coleman - 7.6
Christmas - 5.8
Gbinije - 5.4
Roberson - 4.3
Keita - 3.2
BJ - 3.1
Patterson - 3.0

Which would put us at 78.5 points per game, which seems somewhat reasonable. For me the biggest crap shoot is what kind of point production we'll get from the 4/5 spots.
 
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a game. are you taking the over or the under? just curious. he's getting a lot of hype. i'll go under and hope i'm wrong again..

I would say 8-9 is about the right range -- though I'm more concerned with his shooting percentage from three. If he's basically a viable threat from deep (~32%) that will help us out quite a bit. But relative to his ppg average, he put up 3.4 in 11 mpg last year. If you figure e doubles his minutes total and shoots at least slightly better from the field, that would put him at 8 ppg. Any improvement beyond that could put him closer to 25-27 mpg and more like double-figures in points.
 
a game. are you taking the over or the under? just curious. he's getting a lot of hype. i'll go under and hope i'm wrong again..

slightly over, in the 9.5 range
 
3 threes + 1 two + 1 ft = 12. OVER
 
That's exactly my projection as well. I was thinking in the 9.3-9.7 range.

Actually, I'll just go ahead and take a wild stab at scoring for everyone:

Fair - 15.6
Grant - 12.2
Cooney - 9.6
Ennis - 8.7
Coleman - 7.6
Christmas - 5.8
Gbinije - 5.4
Roberson - 4.3
Keita - 3.2
BJ - 3.1
Patterson - 3.0

Which would put us at 78.5 points per game, which seems somewhat reasonable. For me the biggest crap shoot is what kind of point production we'll get from the 4/5 spots.


I'm willing to bet last year people had similar total point projections. I'm not exactly sure, but I doubt we were close to that high in scoring last year. As we showed last year, we win games with defense. We aren't going to be the Baylor (the football team) of college basketball. It's not the direction we've gone the last couple of seasons.
 
Not very good with predictions .. my only hope is that TC performs his best when it is all on the line ..
 
Taking the over.

Triche, as a first time starter playing with Rautins and Wes, put up a little more than 8 points. He was sharing time with Scoop, and often it was Scoop who got the minutes in the crunch.

Expecting Cooney to do pretty much the same (or a little better), starting and sharing the spot with Gbinije.
 
As we showed last year, we win games with defense. We aren't going to be the Baylor (the football team) of college basketball. It's not the direction we've gone the last couple of seasons.

imo. Agree we will win some games with defense this year. However not being one of the top 5 offensive teams in the country wasn't done out of choice or recruiting it just turned out that way. Mainly because the lack of 4th and 5th scorers.


09-10 for example we had AO, Rautins and Wes. KJO came off the bench in isolation, scoop did some good things on the offensive end as did rick.
11-12 cuse had solid defense but we also had Dion, Scoop KJo leading that team with CJ as a real solid 6th man. It just so happens in 10-11 and 12-13 we lacked that 4th scorer and a 6th man off the bench.

Not sure what team we will be this year yet. CJ is the only definite and we could have more trouble with a true solid 2nd scoring option then a 4th /5th its to early to tell. Cuse hasn't ridden a player since Nichols, and runs so much isolation and motion offense that when our 3rd-4th scorers don't step up we can have a rough game.
 
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Right now, I'd take the under, or about 8 ppg.

I want to see him perform adequately in a few games before raising expectations. He seems like the type that could really be impacted mentally by misses. Hope he starts the season hot and just parlays it into a great year.

If he ends up playing 25-30 mpg, then he should be expected to crack double digits. He'd get plenty of shots in that scenario.
 
He averaged 10 in Canada. I don't see how he can't reach that during the season. I know it's just practice, but by all accounts hes been one of our best players in practice. The cynics on our board always makes me root for certain players harder, and I won't be surprised if he does a lot better than last year.
 
...As we showed last year, we win games with defense. ...
You can't expect the new season to be like the one before. We have had some teams that could put up a lot of points.

With Keita, we can play very good inside defense. With Coleman in the middle, not so much.
We can't expect Ennis & Cooney to match MCW and Triche at the top of the zone, but they might shoot a lot better.
 
I'm willing to bet last year people had similar total point projections. I'm not exactly sure, but I doubt we were close to that high in scoring last year. As we showed last year, we win games with defense. We aren't going to be the Baylor (the football team) of college basketball. It's not the direction we've gone the last couple of seasons.


The one thing that is different from last years offensive output is the league change. The ACC doesn't play defense like the big east did. The ACC is more high tempo run and gun than the slow down tempo of the old big east. I think an average of Tacos is definitely possible this year.
 
The one thing that is different from last years offensive output is the league change. The ACC doesn't play defense like the big east did. The ACC is more high tempo run and gun than the slow down tempo of the old big east. I think an average of Tacos is definitely possible this year.

I also think that the NCAA is looking to increase scoring across the board which is why they have changed the rules, although it still needs to be implemented. I do agree that in general scoring should be easier for us in the ACC than it was in the BE simply because of the nature and style of play.
 
CJ 17
Grant 13
Ennis 12
Cooney 6
Coleman 6
Christmas 6
Roberson 5
Kieta 4
BJ 3
Buss 3
 

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