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Message: [QUOTE="JeremyCuse, post: 315606, member: 43"] You never say never but in most cases like this it ends up being a do or die even though as you pointed out it doesnt have to. Most kids who have a situation like this usually end up at a D1AA and then fall off the face of the earth. I guess its not out of the realm of possibility that he could try to go to say a juco for one year to get his grades up and then re-apply at SU but remember the clock is ticking and schools move on. So in closing I would say its do or die allthough if he went JUCO and re applied SU would surely still have interest, you just dont see many players doing that. [/QUOTE]