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Message: [QUOTE="All4SU, post: 1760345, member: 381"] You make a lot of good points. I agree that Gross did a lot of good upgrading our non-revenue sports. Those teams have been kicking A$$. I don't really hold the football hires against Gross. He was forced to replace Coach P by his higher-ups, at a time when it was really too late to make a hire like that without a good search. He trusted a recommendation from someone he respected (who was successful beyond our wildest dreams), and it didn't work out for us. He hired Marrone, which proved to be a good hire. When Marrone left, he hired from within, which was logical given the program was headed the right direction. Bad luck. I thought Gross was a lot of hat, and not so much in the cattle department. But as you said, he did a good job everywhere else within the program. [/QUOTE]