Credit Where it's due

[MikeSU02]

Bud's article on the QB situation and when Hunt gets healthy. http://www.syracuse.com/poliquin/in...ball_chat_with_bud_poliquin.html#incart_river

Bud takes his fair share of shots around here, I thought this was one of his better pieces in awhile.

This is a bit of a loose article in terms of supporting points. Drew Allen and Greg Paulus were unique situations (in the case of Paulus, incredibly unique).

The other part is that the depth chart at QB was based on McDonald's offense and him being the OC.

Now Lester, being the QB coach and now OC, has a different depth chart and Lester's depth chart (under Shafer's guise) is what matters.

 

[anomander]

Honest opinion is a harsh one, that's why I was trying to swallow my pride and be a good guy this morning .

I think he goes out of his way to try and be perceived as a curmudgeon, I think he wants to be viewed as such.

Furthermore, can't ignore the multiple stories I've heard about his DB-ness.

I actually find Bud's writing style worse then his constant cheap shots. I know where you are coming from though he made some good points.

 

[kcsu]

Bud is a turd and will always be a turd

Gosh he is just simply terrible. Each year he get worse.

 

[OrangeTarheel]

College football isn't professional ball, there are going to be more changes by necessity. The better coaches and staff prepare for that change. We have a great problem here, we have a few quarterbacks we can use - one of which we have decided is the best for the moment. What a great problem, and what a great sign that this program has been well stewarded over the past few years. THAT is the story that needs to be written, not some hack drama piece.

 

[SUbear]

If we are under the assumption that last year, Lester joined McD in the booth to help/call plays, then the same could have occurred this year without a public demotion. As I said, it's very likely Shafer was forced to do it the way he did because of the leak, but at the same time Bud is fairly entitled to say Shafer wasn't being loyal.

No he does not because Bud has no clue about the inner workings of what occurred, he is only giving an opinion based on incomplete or erroneous information, which makes him a dip wad!
But then he has always been one. Bad writer, bad sports commentary, bad editor, in short just bad.

 

[Moontan]

assuming Edouard does, in fact, come (which I do believe), there will be 2 years of separation assuming that Edouard takes a redshirt year.

If he enrolled during the summer, then his clock is ticking and this is his redshirt year.

 

[cuseincincy]

assuming Edouard does, in fact, come (which I do believe), there will be 2 years of separation assuming that Edouard takes a redshirt year. So either Edouard wins the competition straight up, or he has his two years of being the man (assuming he'd be able to hold onto the job and some future recruit doesn't beat him out.) I'd be shocked, and frankly incredibly disappointed, if he was scared off by Long

This is Eduard's "red-shirt year" I believe since he was on campus and enrolled before he left. Even if he goes elsewhere I think he only has 4 to play 4 left. I agree I doubt he is frightened off by Long.

 

[CUSU]

Not what is coming from SU Athletics. From what I have read this is not his redshirt year.

 

[SUbear]

This is Eduard's "red-shirt year" I believe since he was on campus and enrolled before he left. Even if he goes elsewhere I think he only has 4 to play 4 left. I agree I doubt he is frightened off by Long.

I think that would be correct, and if he transfers he would have to sit for another year I think. His is a rather weird and unusual situation.

 

[SUbear]

Not what is coming from SU Athletics. From what I have read this is not his redshirt year.

And SU athletics is always right concerning NCAA rules(not).

 

[Moontan]

I think that would be correct, and if he transfers he would have to sit for another year I think. His is a rather weird and unusual situation.

He could enroll elsewhere in January and would not have to sit out. He did that this year, without being on campus.

 

[cuseincincy]

Not what is coming from SU Athletics. From what I have read this is not his redshirt year.

I would be interested where you read this as SU has been very silent regarding anything to do with Eduoard other than Shafer saying he will be here in January.

 

[CUSU]

I would be interested where you read this as SU has been very silent regarding anything to do with Eduoard other than Shafer saying he will be here in January.

I will see if I can find it later but someone from syracuse.com either asked shafer or someone else in the athletics department and they said Eduourd will still have his redshirt year.

 

[SUbear]

He could enroll elsewhere in January and would not have to sit out. He did that this year, without being on campus.

He did what this year because he definitely was on campus, whether he officially enrolled or not, I can not say, but he definitely was on campus and roomed with Ishmael at that time. There may be a loophole I am unaware of.
The way I understand NCAA eligibility rule is you have five years to compete from the time your HS class graduates, unless you are granted an exemption due to injuries suffered in competition(medical red shirt which can give you one additional year). I would need further explanation as to why his clock would not be ticking already.
He also signed a LOI to SU which binds him for at least one academic year to SU unless he were to downgrade to a non 1A school. Therefore he can still report to SU in January, but not to any other 1A school.

 

[TheCusian]

I will see if I can find it later but someone from syracuse.com either asked shafer or someone else in the athletics department and they said Eduourd will still have his redshirt year.

Yep. Don't have time to find it - but Shafer said he'd have 5 to play 4.

 

[leftytg]

Yep. Don't have time to find it - but Shafer said he'd have 5 to play 4.

took me way too long to dig up, but I finally found it. Shafer came out on Sept 8th and said Edouard would enroll in January and would have 4 years of eligibility and that it would "create separation" from the other freshmen. It was ambiguous if he'd have 5 to play 4, and Bailey tweeted out that he planned to ask Shafer. He did ask, and tweeted out that Shafer confirmed that Edouard would have 5 years to play 4. You can click on the link below to follow along in the thread on this site.

http://syracusefan.com/threads/qb-alin-edouard-fl-signed-with-syracuse.57111/page-8#post-1134252

Is it possible that Shafer is wrong? Sure. But given these specific facts, I think there should be a presumption that Edouard will have 5 years to play 4, and as such would have 2 years separation from AJ Long.

 

[tipphill]

I think this is where Hunt's punch/ejection hurts him. Might have lost some goodwill with the staff on that one.

do you really think that coaches have an issue with the punch????the issue is the immaturity that the punch represented. hardly a reason to keep him out from starting---long,and others will do that

 

[OttoinGrotto]

do you really think that coaches have an issue with the punch????the issue is the immaturity that the punch represented. hardly a reason to keep him out from starting---long,and others will do that

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

 

[tipphill]

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

they know that hunt is not the answer---the punch has nothing to do with his starting

 

[Finwad32]

I get you liked it. You created the thread saying that ...I just responded and I am not of the same opinion about it. You were giving him credit. I am not. Why? See my first response above.

I used quotes around "prerogative" because I was quoting you.

Point taken. It came across to me as you were trying to flame my wording, I wasn't trying to start a fire. My fault.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

they know that hunt is not the answer---the punch has nothing to do with his starting

Ah, gotcha.

 

[BlazeOrange]

5 to play 4 or 4 for 4 doesn't matter if Edouard beats out Hunt/Long/et. al. next year as many seem to expect.

 

[SUbear]

took me way too long to dig up, but I finally found it. Shafer came out on Sept 8th and said Edouard would enroll in January and would have 4 years of eligibility and that it would "create separation" from the other freshmen. It was ambiguous if he'd have 5 to play 4, and Bailey tweeted out that he planned to ask Shafer. He did ask, and tweeted out that Shafer confirmed that Edouard would have 5 years to play 4. You can click on the link below to follow along in the thread on this site.

http://syracusefan.com/threads/qb-alin-edouard-fl-signed-with-syracuse.57111/page-8#post-1134252

Is it possible that Shafer is wrong? Sure. But given these specific facts, I think there should be a presumption that Edouard will have 5 years to play 4, and as such would have 2 years separation from AJ Long.

Everyone has five years to play four, so that really did not answer the question. The real question should have been "Is Edouard's eligibility clock already ticking on those five years?", I believe the answer to that question should be yes, and this year will be counted as his red shirt year. Shafer(SU ath.) did not lie, he(they) just side stepped what the real question was by giving an ambiguous answer.

 

[TheCusian]

Everyone has five years to play four, so that really did not answer the question. The real question should have been "Is Edouard's eligibility clock already ticking on those five years?", I believe the answer to that question should be yes, and this year will be counted as his red shirt year. Shafer(SU ath.) did not lie, he(they) just side stepped what the real question was by giving an ambiguous answer.

No. He said is ambiguously and then the SU athletic dept cleared it up. When he gets back on campus, his clock will start.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

If AJ ends up starting when Hunt is back, will Bud have another piece on how Shafer has no loyalty to his players similar to the lack of loyalty theme of his bit when McDonald was demoted?

Bud owes his career at the Sub Standard to loyalty.