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Message: [QUOTE="Ward, post: 2195414, member: 1958"] Maybe I'm just being too pessimistic with things lately but we kinda are already at this point for 2018. Initially we were all clamoring with hopes of being serious contenders with high level northeast guys like Reddish, Quinerly, Reid, King, Shittu, Jalen Smith, etc. Now we're saying how Carey, Swider, Williams etc. are guys we need to lock up. Carey, Swider and Williams are all very, very good players but I think slightly less talented than most in the initial group. Even with Carey who is starting to blow up and has Kansas offering that's no guarantee so who do we move on to next? And to those who point out that Kansas has a bunch of guys they're prioritizing before Carey - should that be comforting to us that we're excited we have a chance with Kansas's current plan C or D? [/QUOTE]