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Message: [QUOTE="dollarbill44, post: 4004106, member: 686"] And I've posted on here multiple times that there were multiple factors involved in the decline. To claim none of the blame rests with coach P is silly. So is comparing Diamond Ferri and ED. Dungey routinely carried SU. Diamond Ferri had one game that anyone remembers and it was one for the ages. PSU is never down for long. You can't even mention SU and PSU together in that regard. Also, JoePa was how old at the time and couldn't walk right or see straight??? I'm not really sure why you brought Babers into a discussion about Coach P. [/QUOTE]