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Message: [QUOTE="TheCusian, post: 1675250, member: 2585"] I'm with you a 100% on where he sees us. That's out spot based on the on-field results over the past 10 years (or longer). But that's not what I responded to. I was responding to their "being no debate" on whether we are a top 40 program. And clearly, depending on what you're looking at - it is very much debatable. So - to recap - no denying his take as us not being a "big time program". But plenty of debate on being a top 40 program. (Also - aren't all D1 schools in the P5 big time compared to where he has been playing?!?) [/QUOTE]