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Message: [QUOTE="kingottoiii, post: 369750"] We should let the season play out. That being said I have little faith that Marrone will get things done this year. Should we lose to Pitt (which BTW hasn't happened yet), I really think the bottom will fall out. Mediocre HCs do not go 0-9 against Louisville, @UConn, USF, Cincy (without QB), @Pitt, NW, USC, @Minn (without QB), and Pitt. If Marrone wasn't an SU guy, everyone would be calling for his head. Marrone's job is to 1. Stabilize the program (which he succeeded at) 2. Get us back to the 2002-04 level (which he has failed to do thus far and in year 4 is unacceptable) 3. Get us to the 1999-2001 level 4. Get us to the 1993-98 level 5. Get us to the 1987-92 level I give him credit for doing #1. He did that very well. He stopped the bleeding for sure. But he has failed to move the program forward from that point. I think people get too hung up on "hey he's not GRob" or "hey he achieved #1" and are not looking forward. At some point you need to move on. Those 2002-04 teams were not very good yet the talent they had was better than this year's team. That is kinda scary. Especially RBs and the front 7 on D. It is almost laughable to compare those to what we have now. IMO this Pitt game is huge for Marrone's tenure here. It will tell a lot. There really isn't a reason why he shouldn't go 3-1 in the upcoming games. We could win all four but that isn't fair to expect, especially coming off of 0-8. Without Pitt I can't see us pushing for a Bowl and I fear the team will have a loser's mentality the rest of the year. I think it will make for a long next 19 games as an SU fan. I hope Marrone is able to rally the troops. He really would be a good long term solution as HC. For whatever reason he just can't get it done on the field. Maybe he just wasn't ready to be a HC right now. Lots of good HCs fail their first gig (even Belichick and Coughlin). Maybe we were better off getting a short term guy in 2009 and hiring Marrone in 2014 when he was more seasoned. We took a risk in hiring him when we did as he had no experience as a HC and had been out of the college game for 8 years. Even if he fails at SU, I could see him being successful as a HC later on in life. But let's see how things go before asking him to resign. Honestly I think he needs to get to 4-8 to keep his job this year. If he is as safe as some here like to think, SU would have extended his contract by now. The fact that they haven't means that the firing option is still on the table. The question is what record brings down the hammer. Since we are SU fans let's root for Marrone to be successful on Friday. A successful Marrone means a successful SU. [/QUOTE]

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