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Message: [QUOTE="kingottoiii, post: 369857"] I am basing it on expectations and talent. 2002-04 we expected to make a Bowl. Under Marrone we have hoped to make a Bowl. IMO that is a step below. Talent I think is lacking. Look at those 2002-04 rosters and tell me those teams aren't more talented. QB- Patterson, RJ Anderson, Nunes RB- Reyes, Rhodes WR- Jared Jones, Morant, Riddle, Tyree OL- Franklin, Greene, Ojinnaka, Tarullo, Terry, Romeo, Sampson DE- Lacasse, Wyche, Josh Thomas DT- Jenkins, Ferrara, Gachelin LB- Mackey, McClain, Kelvin Smith, Scanlon, Clifton Smith CB- Gregory, TJax S-Diamond Ferri, Anthony Smith, Keon Walker Are we really at that level? I don't think so. Especially at RB, DE, and LB. [/QUOTE]