Death of College Football in the Northeast

[FasterCuse]

Interesting video on the death of college football in the Northeast. I think we’ve debated many of the topics ad nauseam, but also some good points brought up about fractured state school system in NY.

 

[oldpinepoint]

Interesting video on the death of college football in the Northeast. I think we’ve debated many of the topics ad nauseam, but also some good points brought up about fractured state school system in NY.

I like that he said Syracuse was a perennial march madness team. Lol

 

[FasterCuse]

I like that he said Syracuse was a perennial march madness team. Lol

Haha noticed that too. That national perception dies hard

 

[orangenauburn]

Penn State in Semis, consistent 9/10 win program

Cuse 10 wins

Cortland D3 Champ last year

Heck even UConn got 9 wins this year

Pitt was rolling until QB1 went down

 

[djorange1989]

Yeah this is a bit of hyperbole. No question that SU/Pitt/BC are at a disadvantage because of ACC money vs SEC/B10 money. But we and the others are still competitive and obviously PSU is more than competitive.

Oh and Rutgers has been dead for years

 

[Eric15]

Penn State in Semis, consistent 9/10 win program

Cuse 10 wins

Cortland D3 Champ last year

Heck even UConn got 9 wins this year

Pitt was rolling until QB1 went down

And Army just had it's best season in years. BC back to back winning seasons and bowl games.

 

[sutomcat]

And Army just has it's best season in years. BC back to back winning seasons and bowl games.

And UB just finished 9-4.

This podcast doesn't make much sense.

 

[NKR1978]

This argument would have made more sense 10 years ago.

 

[dwilmont44]

Y'all in denial

 

[721Comstock]

Penn State in Semis, consistent 9/10 win program

Cuse 10 wins

Cortland D3 Champ last year

Heck even UConn got 9 wins this year

Pitt was rolling until QB1 went down

The death of NE Football...

... has been greatly exaggerated.

 

[MaxwellCuse]

And Army just had it's best season in years. BC back to back winning seasons and bowl games.

And don’t forget 10-3 Navy.

 

[upperdeck]

PSu is not in the east any more

What happens if you pull OSU out of the mid west or Clemson from the East coast or ALA/GA from the south.

And without Oregon what has the west done?

 

[sufan59]

I think it’s the opposite. One thing the video did not bring up was NIL. Northeast talent volume is definitely lower than other regions in the country, but the volume of FBS programs and P4 programs is also lower. The northeast has plenty of talent to service most of the needs for the P4 programs that exist in this region. Also, what NIL is changing is the ability to keep northeast players home and taken care of instead of going to the factory schools hoping to get there opportunity to play and make enough of an impression to get paid in the NFL. Local talent that can get offers from the factory schools can now get paid at home and increase the likelihood of playing sooner. NIL makes it much more difficult for the factory schools to keep 4 star talent benched for development on its rosters for 3 years to maybe get the opportunity to play big time college football.

 

[shandeezy7]

I think it’s the opposite. One thing the video did not bring up was NIL. Northeast talent volume is definitely lower than other regions in the country, but the volume of FBS programs and P4 programs is also lower. The northeast has plenty of talent to service most of the needs for the P4 programs that exist in this region. Also, what NIL is changing is the ability to keep northeast players home and taken care of instead of going to the factory schools hoping to get there opportunity to play and make enough of an impression to get paid in the NFL. Local talent that can get offers from the factory schools can now get paid at home and increase the likelihood of playing sooner. NIL makes it much more difficult for the factory schools to keep 4 star talent benched for development on its rosters for 3 years to maybe get the opportunity to play big time college football.

Interestingly, MaxPreps just put out an article on where every player on the remaining CFP teams went to high school. Obviously, a lot of this is driven by who is in the game (Texas, Ohio and Pennsylvania are all highly represented), but I found it interesting that there are 38 guys from the Northeast. That number goes to 56 if you include the DMV (which is mostly within a 6-hour radius from Syracuse). The northeast will never compete with Texas/the southeast when it comes to high school talent, but there is still talent to be had in the region.

MAP: Where every player in the College Football Playoff semifinals went to high school

MaxPreps News - Texas, Pennsylvania and Ohio lead the way with nearly 100 combined players including three of the four starting quarterbacks.

www.maxpreps.com

 

[CNYGuy]

Not sure if they still give out the Lambert Trophy to the best Northeast football team, but the standings this year would seem to prove this narrative is either false or the northeast is on the rebound

Penn State 13-2 (in CFP semis)
Army - 12-2 (AAC Champions/Bowl win)
Syracuse - 10-3 (Bowl win)
Navy - 10-3 (Bowl win)
Buffalo - 9-4 (Bowl win)
UConn - 9-4 (Bowl win)
Boston College - 7-6
Rutgers - 7-6
West Virginia - 6-7
Pitt - 7-6
Maryland - 4-8
Temple - 3-9
UMass - 2-10

*I don't think of Maryland or Navy as Northeast schools, but I believe they were counted by that group.

 

[OrangeAl]

PSu is not in the east any more

What happens if you pull OSU out of the mid west or Clemson from the East coast or ALA/GA from the south.

And without Oregon what has the west done?

By that reasoning, SU isn't northeast anymore. We're King of the Carolinas!

 

[Moontan]

Oh and Rutgers has been dead for years

Who?

 

[WoadBlue]

Covers it all well.

Wins in nay years vey even several schools in ti northeast mean nothing. The issue is that there are nearly enough loyal, passionate fan per capita not even compared to the MT and PT schools.

 

[SUFaninNJ]

Covers it all well.

Wins in nay years vey even several schools in ti northeast mean nothing. The issue is that there are nearly enough loyal, passionate fan per capita not even compared to the MT and PT schools.

To quote Meatloaf, you took the words right out of my mouth.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Interesting video on the death of college football in the Northeast. I think we’ve debated many of the topics ad nauseam, but also some good points brought up about fractured state school system in NY.

I really enjoyed that. Lots of good observations that I might not have thought about. Thanks for posting.

 

[IthacaMatt]

This argument would have made more sense 10 years ago.

I think it made a number of good observations.
Land grant universities became the primary college in most of these state off the Eastern seaboard.
Northeastern states ARE more dominated by their pro sports.
Quick, who's the pro team in Alabama? Tennessee?