Death of College Football in the Northeast

[OrangeAl]

That is a slight over statement about Land Grant. It is actually Land Grants and/or Flagships.

The northeast is the only region of the country in which states all chose, until very recently, to have private schools serve as what the Flagship state schools are to all other regions. And thus it is no anomaly that across the entire northeast, the only truly large college football fanbase, and easily the most passionate, is Penn St, which is PA's Land Grant.

The problem is that, without being the state's land grant university, you aren't really the state's flagship.

As much as I think every New Yorker should jump on the SU bandwagon, we're still not considered the representative of all people from Buffalo to Albany, New York City to Malone.

Even SUNY at Buffalo doesn't tug at the heartstrings of people more than 50 miles from their campus.

 

[bnoro]

Covers it all well.

Wins in nay years vey even several schools in ti northeast mean nothing. The issue is that there are nearly enough loyal, passionate fan per capita not even compared to the MT and PT schools.

So performance means nothing, it's about the size of fanbase? Huh?

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

The problem is that, without being the state's land grant university, you aren't really the state's flagship.

As much as I think every New Yorker should jump on the SU bandwagon, we're still not considered the representative of all people from Buffalo to Albany, New York City to Malone.

Even SUNY at Buffalo doesn't tug at the heartstrings of people more than 50 miles from their campus.

RE: the land grant thing.

I'm no expert on this exact subject, but the focal point of Land Grant universities ties in with homesteading + farming and the desire for more centralized higher education. By the 1860s, when Land Grant Universities became a thing, New York City was both a financial and manufacturing hub and Upstate, with its strong rail routes and the Erie Canal, was not as reliant on a farming economy as other states.

Plus, New York already had so many established colleges by that point and would only add more by 1900.

That is to say, the land grant thing never really took on here - I mean, the Land Grant University is Cornell.

 

[FrancoPizza]

So it's about the size of fanbase? Huh?

how you use the fanbase is more important. at least that’s what I’m learning on the other board which more closely resembles the scene from LA these days.