DeJaun Coleman...

[SUalldway]

Now factor in that RAC is doing it against Big East teams and DC did it against mid majors.

Anyone that thinks DC is the savior for this team will be sorely disappointed and there will be threads about how big of a bust he is.

No one thinks DC is a savior. Anyone who thinks the current production we are getting at the 5 position is OK is looking at things thru Orange-colored glasses.

 

[SUalldway]

Do those numbers change if you use only BE play? A higher percentage of DC's games were against the "soft" portion of our schedule.

Anyway, wasn't really trying to argue against your point (just thought the knock on BMK/Rak was a bit harsh) - I want the two big (Rak, DC) more involved - I think we need to get them touches.

I agree need to get them more touches.

 

[Halfmooncuse]

I'm sorry, but has Coleman commanded respect on the block at any point this year?

It'll be huge for him to get game action (though I'm not holding my breath that he'll be so lucky). Helping us on offense, that might be a bit much to hope for.

Yup . Salina and Erie Blvd.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

At least with DC there is the hope for improvement...and perhaps vast improvement, even over a relatively short time period. With BMK and Rak, what you see is what you get.

 

[timkay99]

No one thinks DC is a savior. Anyone who thinks the current production we are getting at the 5 position is OK is looking at things thru Orange-colored glasses.

If DC replaces Keita, I am all for it.

Honestly, once DC comes back, I am not going to be happy if Keita plays at all.

Rak needs 25 minutes, give DC 10 and give Keita 5 in the first half if you absolutely have to (if DC isn't conditioned enough).

Now, that isn't going to happen and we are going to see DC get 4, Rak get 20 and Keita get 15-20. And that is a problem.

 

[longislandcuse]

If DC replaces Keita, I am all for it.

Honestly, once DC comes back, I am not going to be happy if Keita plays at all.

Rak needs 25 minutes, give DC 10 and give Keita 5 in the first half if you absolutely have to (if DC isn't conditioned enough).

Now, that isn't going to happen and we are going to see DC get 4, Rak get 20 and Keita get 15-20. And that is a problem.

Its maddening. This might be the most annoying thing I have ever witnessed Boeheim do. The incessant need to play Keita big minutes and yank/embarass Rak anytime he does anything mildly poor. I thought Rak was commanding the glass early in the game, then he misses a shot, God forbid he ever take a shot and in comes Keita who runs around being tall, long and uncoordinated with zero ability to do anything when that round orange object comes anywhere within 10 feet of him. This must be what it would look like if we played Sean Williams in meaningful game time.

 

[Madbiker]

My guess is that DC2 won't see the court until the DePaul game and then for maybe 6-8 minutes. JB wasn't playing him more than the first 2 minutes before he got hurt. I doubt he sees any meaningful time the rest of the year. He hasn't been very effective this year...but he hasn't been used well either IMO.

 

[anomander]

i would be shocked if we see DC on the floor the rest of this season. JB obviously didn't care for him much before the injury I can't see him coming back and getting any more minutes then he did. JB has said time and time again we don't play freshman at Syracuse. Look at how quickly he gave our best player for a time (Grant) the hook when JS came back. Cooney barely, and thankfully, hardly sniffs the court. DC won't see much if any time the rest of this season. There is just no way.

 

[anomander]

Its maddening. This might be the most annoying thing I have ever witnessed Boeheim do. The incessant need to play Keita big minutes and yank/embarass Rak anytime he does anything mildly poor. I thought Rak was commanding the glass early in the game, then he misses a shot, God forbid he ever take a shot and in comes Keita who runs around being tall, long and uncoordinated with zero ability to do anything when that round orange object comes anywhere within 10 feet of him. This must be what it would look like if we played Sean Williams in meaningful game time.

i have been saying the same exact thing almost verbatim since i walked out of the dome. i just don't get it. you can't play basketball scared if you make a mistake you get the hook. you can't play tight/tentative/thinking. JB is so far in his head. I wish he would have tried another approach then the typical break them down and build them up we have seen. rak obviously isn't wired that way. how about trying to build up his confidence in the non-conference so he was ready for BE play

 

[Hoov50]

Coleman could instantly become a threat in the post if he changed one thing and didn't take a power dribble every time he gets the ball a foot from the basket. It's a tough habit to break though. It took Etan Thomas three years to break the habit!

 

[Bayside44]

The point of my question isn't that he is going to go out there and be Sean May.

It's the at least threat of a threat to keep the defensese a tad more honest is all. Right now there is zero threat down low, a 5% chance that a guy might do something at least creates a little spacing.

 

[anomander]

The point of my question isn't that he is going to go out there and be Sean May.

It's the at least threat of a threat to keep the defensese a tad more honest is all. Right now there is zero threat down low, a 5% chance that a guy might do something at least creates a little spacing.

but knowing how JB manages FR, especially come March, do you really think we can expect him to do this? Personally I wouldn't mind it, but i'm not holding my breathe.

 

[Bayside44]

but knowing how JB manages FR, especially come March, do you really think we can expect him to do this? Personally I wouldn't mind it, but i'm not holding my breathe.

Who knows, sometimes JB pulls some odd stuff in March.

 

[realorange]

I think we need to scrap the Grant starting experiment (Sorry Jerami fanboys) he's going to be great but he just doesnt fit on a team that already has pieces that dont fit together. Southerland might be our second most talented player behind MCW, just start him already. MCW/Triche/CJ/JS/Rak with Grant spelling CJ/JS for a few minutes each, Cooney spelling MCW/Triche for a few minutes a game and DC2 spelling Rak even though that wont happen and Keita will still play 3/4 of the game inexplicably.

The fact that JS can shoot 3s (sometimes) and has experience are the only things he has over Grant.

 

[Ghost]

The point of my question isn't that he is going to go out there and be Sean May.

It's the at least threat of a threat to keep the defensese a tad more honest is all. Right now there is zero threat down low, a 5% chance that a guy might do something at least creates a little spacing.

I'm not sure that having DC not getting passes in the post will make him more of a threat than Rak not getting passes in the post.

Most chances they get are on lobs and honestly Rak is going to convert more of those than DC.

I agree with the sentiment though 100%.

 

[Ghost]

If DC replaces Keita, I am all for it.

Honestly, once DC comes back, I am not going to be happy if Keita plays at all.

Rak needs 25 minutes, give DC 10 and give Keita 5 in the first half if you absolutely have to (if DC isn't conditioned enough).

Now, that isn't going to happen and we are going to see DC get 4, Rak get 20 and Keita get 15-20. And that is a problem.

Great post.

Won't happen, but great post.

We lost the UConn and G'Town games when Keita came in.

 

[longislandcuse]

Great post.

Won't happen, but great post.

We lost the UConn and G'Town games when Keita came in.

The lead was almost immediately erased when he came in. Direct correlation.

 

[Ghost]

The lead was almost immediately erased when he came in. Direct correlation.

I do want to say I like Baye, and I think he's useful in some situations.

A quick blow for Rak/DC is great. He is a great third option underneath imo. He's active, tries hard - and in certain games he comes in and he's productive. And when that happens, by all means, keep him on the court.

There are games though, lots of 'em, where he comes in and we're getting less than nothing (UConn, G'Town for example) and JB keeps him in for 5-7 minutes based on the fact that, what, Rak missed a 4 foot jump shot? And those 5-7 minutes are turning games around.

 

[longislandcuse]

I do want to say I like Baye, and I think he's useful in some situations.

A quick blow for Rak/DC is great. He is a great third option underneath imo. He's active, tries hard - and in certain games he comes in and he's productive. And when that happens, by all means, keep him on the court.

There are games though, lots of 'em, where he comes in and we're getting less than nothing (UConn, G'Town for example) and JB keeps him in for 5-7 minutes based on the fact that, what, Rak missed a 4 foot jump shot? And those 5-7 minutes are turning games around.

I distinctly remember right when he came in and a rebound fell right to him, and as per usual, somehow the other team still has the ball after an inevitable scrum as a result of Stonehands McGee fumblind the ball around, G'town kicked it out to a wide open Kobe Bryant, err I mean Otto Porter who drained a 3. HUGE play in determing the flow and momentum of the game from there out. Keita came in with a 5-7 point lead and went out with us trailing, we regained the lead for a minute but his +/- for the game was a killer.