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Message: [QUOTE="CuseOnly, post: 2366802, member: 2804"] I live in Clay, far North of the city, lived in Liverpool and/or Clay my whole life. I am not inconvenienced whatsoever by taking 481 around the city as opposed to taking 81 through it. As a matter of fact, I avoid the viaduct through the city at all costs unless I am actually going into the city. And funny that when I do go into the city taking 481S to 81S from Clay (Near Great Northern Mall), most of the time to get into the city I get off at the Clinton St. exit and never have to take the viaduct you are so vigorously defending. Do you even live in or around Syracuse and have any idea what you are talking about?? [/QUOTE]