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Message: [QUOTE="Cheriehoop, post: 2367094, member: 127"] It isn't ridiculous or a joke to compare Syracuse to LA, NYC, Boston, DC etc? We should want to emulate one of their worst quality of life issues, traffic, their biggest tradeoff when deciding to live there? We're not addressing an issue because economic growth has resulted in traffic like in those cities, instead the city is hoping that economic growth will occur because of traffic. I do know the city very well throughout my life (and generations before me) despite others who have accused otherwise. East of the city center in the Dewitt, Manlius, Burnet Ave, Thompson Rd, Eastwood areas will be able to use Erie Blvd/690/481 to get around but those west and just northwest, southwest of the city won't have those options and neither will ambulances. 690 which dissects the city into north and south halves will now become the only way to leave the city center which will create it's own new issues. There currently isn't a traffic problem as many have enthusiastically pointed out but we want to create ground level traffic issues creating new traffic patterns to resolve social issues just like the process that created 81 in the first place. I'd just like honesty in the discussion. There obviously are developers who covet certain parcels of land, create traffic in specific areas - who are they, are they businesses who will create jobs, just relocate jobs or just an attempt to gentrify an area pushing part of the poverty problem elsewhere. Are the plans solid, a possible boon to some or all? Is it the new 'inland port' that is being created in the Jamesville area? Unless they tear down pioneer homes, the buildings near Almond are all relatively new high rises, new medical buildings, Golisano related buildings etc - I doubt they are being targeted. So where is all this land that would be freed up and for what? If the real crux of this push is relocating central city poor people, where are they relocating them to? Wish the real reasons for tearing down route 81 were being discussed and evaluated because it certainly isn't traffic related. Pure aesthetics? I doubt it. There were reasons other than traffic that created route 81 along with winners and losers and it continues. It would just be nice to be able to evaluate transparently. Most changes start with 'follow the money' so should the discussions. [/QUOTE]

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