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Message: [QUOTE="xc84, post: 2446108, member: 1526"] We are talking Syracuse right now not every city. There is no need for a highway to cut through downtown. There is a need to get into downtown via a highway from the suburbs. There is a need for people in the city to get out of downtown on a highway. There is need for those in the suburbs to have access to highways that go other places. This is all the case with the grid. If we were to build from scratch, there is no way a new highway would be proposed to cut through the middle of downtown for N-S and E-W thru traffic. You'd go around downtown but make sure downtown had good access in and out. That's the grid. The tunnel would be great if it were less costly and would not require the most maintenance $$s going forward. However, it is the mostly costly to build by far, the most challenging and the most time-consuming. [/QUOTE]