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Message: [QUOTE="xc84, post: 2447223, member: 1526"] You don't trust the estimates from Google Maps that he provided? Why would someone not head into the city? It's even easier with the grid to get from B-ville to downtown. That's the gimme. The other estimates from the DOT show only slight differences (minutes). Not one is ignoring the fate of an interstate. The interstate goes to where it should have been from the start...around downtown. To me, the grid is the best and happens to be the least expensive option. That's why it is a winner. However, the dopes who want to pay triple the cost of the grid on a tunnel seem to be leading the pack right now. [/QUOTE]