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Message: [QUOTE="OttoMets, post: 2448941, member: 716"] I love this post. This is really what it boils down to: a lot of people want something that doesn't exist. There's no such thing as a healthy Onondaga County that's easily driveable in 15 minutes. If people want a sprawling no-growth region with continued minimal increase in home values as builders throw up cheap crap in farm fields, we can have that. And we'll continue to pay the piper as short-sighted suburban towns absorb increased infrastructure costs every year. Alternatively, people can recognize that Central New York's success is tied to Syracuse and the planning decisions we make for the benefit of the city will determine whether the region thrives or dies. But this is a zero sum game and I can't think of any real-life examples of a region that has it both ways - suburban-centric planning and a healthy center city. "Fantastyland" is the right word. [/QUOTE]