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Message: [QUOTE="upperdeck, post: 3061651, member: 474"] wait.. you compare time of 8 min with something that doesnt exist and think it takes longer.. we know how long it takes to take the 481 loop.. no one has any idea how long it will take to go thru the center once it changes.. i know down here it can take 2 min or 15 min to go the same section of road with 5-6 lights. if you have 1-2 miles of blvd with lights thats going to be 10-15 lights and the 481 might well be quicker when its all done. [/QUOTE]