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Message: [QUOTE="Fly Rodder, post: 4208769, member: 2133"] I suspect you were at the Onondaga Planning symposium last week, the housing market discussion was pretty interesting. It seems central NY is in a bit of a crossroads since the housing stock is old and very expensive to modernize for efficiency and amenities, but the property values generally aren't sufficient to warrant the investment. Chicken or egg issue especially when some employers claim that they can't get people to move here because the housing market is limited to old drafty fixer-uppers or brand new 3,000 SF McMansions a half-hour out. [/QUOTE]