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Message: [QUOTE="oldpinepoint, post: 5561651, member: 320"] When I was shopping last year for a new heating sources that was my experience. So my basic thought was, you are telling me in Syracuse to have a heat pump I’ll need to buy a furnace for temps below 30 degrees. Why wouldn’t I just get the furnace and traditional AC condenser . The cost for a heat pump was about double to install and the best which is Mitsubishi can be more than that. There are a lot of cheaper made knock offs from china that I couldn’t find good reviews on that all of the HVAC’s are selling. The efficiency gains didn’t make up for the cost increases. [/QUOTE]