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Message: [QUOTE="All4SU, post: 4031880, member: 381"] The most significant point of Babers’ statements to me is the idea that the players don’t want to let people down. There was a thread on here a couple of weeks ago in which the poster theorized the players have to “learn how to win.” I don’t think that’s it at all. I don’t think teams or players forget how to win. I think they lose the need to be accountable to their team. When a team is struggling, it’s too easy for a kid to look around when he makes a mistake and say, “Well, I’m not the only one. Everybody is messing up too.” But at some point, when a team has the right chemistry and leadership, a kid will do everything in his power to not mess up because he doesn’t want to let his teammates and coaches down. That’s not learning to win, it’s learning to be accountable. A beautiful thing in sports, and in life. [/QUOTE]