Do we play Notre Dame week 1 next year?

[ImperialOrange]

because ticket master has it listed 9/27/14 although the tickets are not yet for sale.

Was hoping to open up with a bit softer schedule next season.

 

[storange]

because ticket master has it listed 9/27/14 although the tickets are not yet for sale.

Was hoping to open up with a bit softer schedule next season.

No 27th of September

 

[ImperialOrange]

No 27th of September

Yeah suppose I missed the obvious there. Thanks

 

[Alsacs]

We have Maryland September 20th Carrier Dome
Notre Dame September 27th Metlife Stadium

Also, Villanova is unofficially official the 1-AA opponent. In 2016 the ND game at Metlife is week 1 or 2 I heard, but next year its week 5.

 

[Entropic]

Its hard work being New York's Team. It requires us to play people we lose to in recruiting battles every year in NYC where we most often lose major recruiting battles... ie. Pedo State.

 

[All4SU]

We have Maryland September 20th Carrier Dome
Notre Dame September 27th Metlife Stadium

Also, Villanova is unofficially official the 1-AA opponent. In 2016 the ND game at Metlife is week 1 or 2 I heard, but next year its week 5.

Let's go:
Villanova
Army (or equivalent)
Maryland
Notre Dame
(Bye Week)
Wake
FSU
BC
ACC other
ACC other
(Bye Week)
Clemson
ACC other
Pitt

 

[OrangeCrush22]

Let's go:
Villanova
Army (or equivalent)
Maryland
Notre Dame
(Bye Week)
Wake
FSU
BC
ACC other
ACC other
(Bye Week)
Clemson
ACC other
Pitt

If Villanova is true then this is our schedule so far, though it's obviously not in order.

Villanova
Maryland
Notre Dame (MetLife)
Duke
Florida State
Louisville
NC State
@ Boston College
@ Clemson
@ Pitt
@ Wake Forest

 

[TBCuse11]

so our 12th game will be on the road... lets not make it vs. a good team PLEASE

 

[Chip]

Let's go:
Villanova
Army (or equivalent)
Maryland
Notre Dame
(Bye Week)
Wake
FSU
BC
ACC other
ACC other
(Bye Week)
Clemson
ACC other
Pitt

Is this your form of protest against us playing NC State and Louisville?

Looks like Orangecrush mentioned, but Duke is setup to be our other division game.

It would appear that, as much as possible, next year is scheduled for success. We'll have no choice but to open with the easier games. Then Maryland is at home. Other division game being home against Duke. BC is a home game every year.

 

[ImperialOrange]

[qoute="TBCuse11, post: 770534, member: 3075"]so our 12th game will be on the road... lets not make it vs. a good team PLEASE[/quote]

I hope its a winnable game but given our recent track record I'm expecting it to be @ Alabama with no return game.

 

[Chris02M]

This would be ideal

Villanova*
NC State
TBD(home or away but a winnable game)
Maryland*
Notre Dame (MetLife)*
Bye
@ Wake Forest
Florida State
Duke
Bye
@ Clemson
@ Pitt
Louisville
@ Boston College*


*= almost positive of there position on schedule

 

[Lou_C]

so our 12th game will be on the road... lets not make it vs. a good team PLEASE

You should never play a bad team on the road. And you should definitely be playing a bad team with ND and MD already on your slate. You should definitely be trying to host Army or Umass or Georgia State in that spot...just have to cough up the million bucks and do it.

That schedule is BRUTAL. Likely going to be a double digit underdog in at least 5 games. That makes for a very tough schedule to get to six wins with if you schedule another game that's even remotely loseable.

 

[Alsacs]

You should never play a bad team on the road. And you should definitely be playing a bad team with ND and MD already on your slate. You should definitely be trying to host Army or Umass or Georgia State in that spot...just have to cough up the million bucks and do it.

That schedule is BRUTAL. Likely going to be a double digit underdog in at least 5 games. That makes for a very tough schedule to get to six wins with if you schedule another game that's even remotely loseable.

We will be double digit underdogs in 3 games at most. Notre Dame if Everton Golston returns, Florida State, and Clemson. While Louisville is top 10 this year they won't be a juggernaut next year without Teddy Bridgewater who is 90% gone after the year. We housed Louisville in the Dome last year with Bridgewater Louisville won't be a double digit favorite. Maryland, NC State, Duke, Villanova will not be double digit favorites. @Wake Forest, @Boston College, @Pitt won't be as well.
If the AD could buy home games it probably will but are more likely to do a 2 for 1 or 1 for 1 with MAC school or 1 for 1 with a AAC school than buy a home game. Maryland is good but they aren't FSU or Clemson.

 

[Lou_C]

I actually meant to say touchdown underdogs, but the point isn't much different. You are seven point underdogs to NC State this year, who just lost to Wake.

That's great you beat Louisville. That doesn't make that an even game, last year or next year. Yes, you can upset some people, but you can't pretend then you can't be upset. You're counting every game you should win as a win, and some of the games you shouldn't win as a win. That's just not how it works over time. Yes, you'll get better, but everyone (other than Louisville) should be better as well.

You will be double digit underdogs to FSU, Clemson, probably Notre Dame and possibly Louisville. You will likely be 7-pt+ underdogs to Louisville and at Pitt and possibly Maryland. You should win, but will not be prohibitive favorites, against BC and NC State, and possibly Duke.

Right now I count Villanova and Wake forest as somewhat certain wins. And that might be generous, considering that you guys are touchdown underdogs right now to a team that just lost to Wake Forest.

All I'm saying is that it would be damning to schedule a game that is anything less than a certain win.

That is a crazy challenging schedule for a team that will be overacheiving to get to a bowl game this year (by any objective observer).

I understand that you look at that and think that's not accurate, that those kind of point spreads are wrong because sometimes you guys win as big underdogs. It just doesn't work that way, and I don't know how to explain it otherwise. Nobody beats the odds over time. You're asking Syracuse football to do so. If it was easy, and you were right that Syracuse football is being constantly underestimated, you could make a bundle in Vegas.

 

[Alsacs]

I actually meant to say touchdown underdogs, but the point isn't much different. You are seven point underdogs to NC State this year, who just lost to Wake.

That's great you beat Louisville. That doesn't make that an even game, last year or next year. Yes, you can upset some people, but you can't pretend then you can't be upset. You're counting every game you should win as a win, and some of the games you shouldn't win as a win. That's just not how it works over time. Yes, you'll get better, but everyone (other than Louisville) should be better as well.

You will be double digit underdogs to FSU, Clemson, probably Notre Dame and possibly Louisville. You will likely be 7-pt+ underdogs to Louisville and at Pitt and possibly Maryland. You should win, but will not be prohibitive favorites, against BC and NC State, and possibly Duke.

Right now I count Villanova and Wake forest as somewhat certain wins. And that might be generous, considering that you guys are touchdown underdogs right now to a team that just lost to Wake Forest.

All I'm saying is that it would be damning to schedule a game that is anything less than a certain win.

That is a crazy challenging schedule for a team that will be overacheiving to get to a bowl game this year (by any objective observer).

I understand that you look at that and think that's not accurate, that those kind of point spreads are wrong because sometimes you guys win as big underdogs. It just doesn't work that way, and I don't know how to explain it otherwise. Nobody beats the odds over time. You're asking Syracuse football to do so. If it was easy, and you were right that Syracuse football is being constantly underestimated, you could make a bundle in Vegas.

I agree we overschedule, but it isn't going to change sadly. I agree this year's schedule was dumb but our AD is having to overcome the Big East stigma and scheduling an extra good team. I am sure you realize betting lines are created to try and generate as much action as they can on both teams. I don't get this love you have for Maryland they are a solid team but a perfect non-conference game. A team that doesn't have elite talent or consistently top 25 and are a team we should beat at home. I get Syracuse doesn't deserve respect nationally as we have been bad/mediocre since 2001, but its not like we are scheduling Florida, Oklahoma State, Notre Dame like FSU is next year. BTW that schedule is awesome and you guys can handle it because of Winston and the talent on your roster. Season tickets next year for FSU should already be sold out for 2014 with Clemson, Florida, Notre Dame all on your home schedule.

 

[All4SU]

I actually meant to say touchdown underdogs, but the point isn't much different. You are seven point underdogs to NC State this year, who just lost to Wake.

That's great you beat Louisville. That doesn't make that an even game, last year or next year. Yes, you can upset some people, but you can't pretend then you can't be upset. You're counting every game you should win as a win, and some of the games you shouldn't win as a win. That's just not how it works over time. Yes, you'll get better, but everyone (other than Louisville) should be better as well.

You will be double digit underdogs to FSU, Clemson, probably Notre Dame and possibly Louisville. You will likely be 7-pt+ underdogs to Louisville and at Pitt and possibly Maryland. You should win, but will not be prohibitive favorites, against BC and NC State, and possibly Duke.

Right now I count Villanova and Wake forest as somewhat certain wins. And that might be generous, considering that you guys are touchdown underdogs right now to a team that just lost to Wake Forest.

All I'm saying is that it would be damning to schedule a game that is anything less than a certain win.

That is a crazy challenging schedule for a team that will be overacheiving to get to a bowl game this year (by any objective observer).

I understand that you look at that and think that's not accurate, that those kind of point spreads are wrong because sometimes you guys win as big underdogs. It just doesn't work that way, and I don't know how to explain it otherwise. Nobody beats the odds over time. You're asking Syracuse football to do so. If it was easy, and you were right that Syracuse football is being constantly underestimated, you could make a bundle in Vegas.

If we had NCSts schedule, we would be 4-1 right now. Being an underdog today means nothing.

 

[kirbivore]

You should never play a bad team on the road. And you should definitely be playing a bad team with ND and MD already on your slate. You should definitely be trying to host Army or Umass or Georgia State in that spot...just have to cough up the million bucks and do it.

That schedule is BRUTAL. Likely going to be a double digit underdog in at least 5 games. That makes for a very tough schedule to get to six wins with if you schedule another game that's even remotely loseable.

I'll bet you cash money Cuse is not a double digit dog vs. Maryland next year.

 

[Entropic]

I for one would like to schedule with a mid west team. Iowa, Iowa St., Illinois for example to help with our recruiting.

 

[Lou_C]

I agree we overschedule, but it isn't going to change sadly. I agree this year's schedule was dumb but our AD is having to overcome the Big East stigma and scheduling an extra good team. I am sure you realize betting lines are created to try and generate as much action as they can on both teams. I don't get this love you have for Maryland they are a solid team but a perfect non-conference game. A team that doesn't have elite talent or consistently top 25 and are a team we should beat at home. I get Syracuse doesn't deserve respect nationally as we have been bad/mediocre since 2001, but its not like we are scheduling Florida, Oklahoma State, Notre Dame like FSU is next year. BTW that schedule is awesome and you guys can handle it because of Winston and the talent on your roster. Season tickets next year for FSU should already be sold out for 2014 with Clemson, Florida, Notre Dame all on your home schedule.

I agree, Maryland is a perfect opponent for you guys to schedule. Just not when you've already got ND. And certainly the remaining spot should not be filled with a team that has any reasonable chance to beat you.

FSU's schedule is pretty intense next year. I think we can handle it based on where the program is, and the fact I think Oklahoma State is falling back. That said, even that is not ideal from a scheduling perspective for the ACC. However, it kind of needs to be done, because the last two home slates (partially thanks to WVU cancelling their series with us last year) have been pretty horrible and resulted in stagnating ticket sales even as the team is stepping to the next level. We simply had to have Notre Dame when the opportunity came up for season ticket reasons. Idealy we'd get them in 2015 instead, but I get it. There's always going to be exceptions that need to be made occasionally, because scheduling is so difficult.

 

[All4SU]

In the last four years, Maryland has gone 4-8, 2-10, 9-4, 2-10. If that is too tough of an opponent, even with ND on have schedule, I just don't know what to say. I've said it before, I'll say it again. A FCS team, a MAC team or Army, a low to medium BCS team, and a good team. That's our 4. Good doesn't have to be Alabama, but a brand name team. ND fits that bill.

 

[Alsacs]

BTW Lou, I have information that may interest you and your Nole fans. The ACC is working with Notre Dame to help FSU, Georgia Tech, and Clemson with their home game problem potentially if the ACC goes to a 9 game schedule which is likely once the B1G and SEC go 9 game schedules as well. The idea would be that in the years that ND would host FSU. Clemson, Ga. Tech in home games they would make these games their Shamrock games and play them in the Southeast Clemson in Charlotte, Florida State in Orlando/Tampa, Georgia Tech in Atlanta and while ND/NBC would control the games as home games ND would give those schools a decent pay out to compensate them when they only had 6 home games to go with 5 road games and the neutral site game. This would occur once every six years and would alleviate the lost revenue that Clemson and Florida State would get every 6 years. So the ACC is working to help FSU/Clemson I hope your anti-ACC fans realize this of which you used to be part of as you have stated.

 

[All4SU]

BTW Lou, I have information that may interest you and your Nole fans. The ACC is working with Notre Dame to help FSU, Georgia Tech, and Clemson with their home game problem potentially if the ACC goes to a 9 game schedule which is likely once the B1G and SEC go 9 game schedules as well. The idea would be that in the years that ND would host FSU. Clemson, Ga. Tech in home games they would make these games their Shamrock games and play them in the Southeast Clemson in Charlotte, Florida State in Orlando/Tampa, Georgia Tech in Atlanta and while ND/NBC would control the games as home games ND would give those schools a decent pay out to compensate them when they only had 6 home games to go with 5 road games and the neutral site game. This would occur once every six years and would alleviate the lost revenue that Clemson and Florida State would get every 6 years. So the ACC is working to help FSU/Clemson I hope your anti-ACC fans realize this of which you used to be part of as you have stated.

I'm surprised ND would go for that.

 

[Alsacs]

I'm surprised ND would go for that.

ND makes a lot of money from their Shamrock games, and it would open the Southeast GA, FL, SC, NC for recruiting and while ND would lose them in South Bend their home schedule is fine and would alleviate a huge concern for the 9 game schedule. It would be shocking for most to think ND would help the conference, but I don't think this is that surprising when Kelly would want to access to those recruits and ND's TV partner would be fine it, and those 3 schools would be okay with the 9 game schedule and get everyone in support of it and they would be getting a de facto neutral site game even though ND would still have more fans.

 

[All4SU]

Well, I am in favor of the 9 game conference schedule. So good. If it helps make it happen, all the better.

 

[TBCuse11]

You should never play a bad team on the road. And you should definitely be playing a bad team with ND and MD already on your slate. You should definitely be trying to host Army or Umass or Georgia State in that spot...just have to cough up the million bucks and do it.

That schedule is BRUTAL. Likely going to be a double digit underdog in at least 5 games. That makes for a very tough schedule to get to six wins with if you schedule another game that's even remotely loseable.

Our last game will not be a home game. we have six already locked in, no way we have 7 games in the Dome. Plus Metlife? Are you even allowed to only have 4 road games total?