Does LSU deserve

[kingottoiii]

A split title if they lose to Bama at the end or in OT? If you look at their body of work, you can argue that they deserve to be AP #1 in that case. They went undefeated in the SEC. Beat Oregon in Dallas. And had to beat UGA in the SEC CG. They beat Bama on the road and if they were to lose a heartbreaker to Bama after not playing for an entire month, do they not deserve to be #1? In which case we would see a split national title between two teams from the same conference.

 

[Guinness]

I would have to say yes. I was not a fan of the rematch for just this very reason. If Alabama wins what does it really prove? They will have lost at home to LSU and then beaten them on a neutral site yet we are supposed to believe they are somehow the better team? LSU has played a much tougher schedule and has by far the better resume.

 

[SU2NASA]

Yes.

There shouldn't even be a national title game when one team has already conclusively proven to be the best in the nation.

 

[BlackKnight76]

My SEC friend is convinced that if LSU loses by one, they'll still come out ahead in the computer rankings.

 

[lvilleorange]

Well they cannot claim a NC if they lose:

The American Football Coaches Association is contractually bound to vote the winner of this game as the BCS National Champion and the contract signed by each conference requires them to recognize the winner of the BCS National Championship game as the official and only Champion

 

[Marsh01]

The winner of this game is the national champion regardless of who beats who by how many. They cant split it anymore. When is this game again? May 8th, 2013?

 

[KaiserUEO]

its a bullspit system when LSU beats bama at bama...then has to play 1 more game against georgia, risking not only a loss, but say an injury riddled bad one where they could be leapt by not only an idle bama, but okie state for the champ game.

 

[kingottoiii]

The winner of this game is the national champion regardless of who beats who by how many. They cant split it anymore. When is this game again? May 8th, 2013?

Sure they can split. The AP hasn't agreed to automatically vote the BCS CG winner #1. Only the coaches have.

 

[kingottoiii]

Well they cannot claim a NC if they lose:

That is just the coaches. Doesn't include AP. See 2003.

 

[Boston Tiger]

No. LSU fans argued strongly against USC's claim of a share of the 2003 title, so they should argue the same should Bama prevail in this game. But I don't think that happens. The Bama players and coaches know they were beaten in the fourth quarter and overtime of the last game, no matter what the Gump fans may say. That's why Saban is pushing so hard to get the team in better condition this month. They are going to come in tired and uptight, while Les Miles will have the Tigers hungry, rested and ready. This team has a focus that I can't recall ever seeing before.

 

[OrangeMuskyFish]

This is for the title... despite how bad the system is, it still at least gives us a one game playoff to determine who wins the title. I think people are so against the system that they are trying to make this much more difficult than it is. Despite what game you might want to see, this is the one that pits the two best teams in the nation. They got it right, and whoever wins the Big One, is champ.

 

[Moontan]

After 'Bama beats LSU 3-0 in triple-OT, I'd love to see OSU jump them both in the AP poll.

 

[690West]

This is for the title... despite how bad the system is, it still at least gives us a one game playoff to determine who wins the title. I think people are so against the system that they are trying to make this much more difficult than it is. Despite what game you might want to see, this is the one that pits the two best teams in the nation. They got it right, and whoever wins the Big One, is champ.

Stop drinking the rancid kool aid, musky. "they got it right" posts make me sick. Yay!! This year it worked out. BCS!! BCS!! puke

 

[OrangeMuskyFish]

Stop drinking the rancid kool aid, musky. "they got it right" posts make me sick. Yay!! This year it worked out. BCS!! BCS!! puke

I don't like the system either man, but I also am not going to ridiculously search for reasons to twist it into something its not. This is perhaps the best BCS game I can remember in terms of the power of the teams playing in it, and I just get a little tired of hearing so many people knocking it because they may have wanted to see a higher caliber offensive team make it, or act like it's absurd that there is a rematch.

 

[Moontan]

It's just odd to see a team that didn't win its own division, let alone conference championship, make it to the BCS Championship game. Nebraska pulled the same stunt in 2001.

 

[orange03]

The regular season and the bowl game/playoff are separate entities. The winner of the BCS game is the champion.

 

[Moontan]

The regular season and the bowl game/playoff are separate entities. The winner of the BCS game is the champion.

Yup, the winner of the BCS Championship game is the winner of the BCS Championship.

This year's situation is even worse than previous editions... 'Bama already had its chance (at home no less) to show that they're better than LSU. They failed. In the ideal situation they each go to separate bowls (in a Plus-1 scenario) and get reamed.

It's still a lot of B(c)S. If some have their way, that's exactly how it'll stay as well.

Just as conferences have re-aligned just for BCS bowl AQ status and things seemed to be heading to a Plus-1 scenario, some of the BCS power brokers are floating the idea of scrapping all BCS games but their fabled championship game and going back to the pre-bowl agreement (Bowl Coalition/Bowl Alliance/BCS) era. The BCS will have (killed) messed with conferences as we knew them and left it without any benefit. A sad, sad, state of affairs. Actually, more of a disgrace.

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

To me, the rematch of division rivals for the National Championship is a death blow for the BCS-supporting argument that every week is a playoff, and that teams can't afford to lose a single game because they'll be knocked out of contention.

Or, this happens.

 

[SWC75]

The #1 vs. #2 game should be regarded as jsut that- a good bowl match-up, not a championship game. It goes into the evidnece fiel when the naitonal champion is voted upon.

There have been occasisons in the past when I thought a loss in a bowl game by a #1 team shouldn't necessarily depirve them of a naitonal title.

1965: #1 Michigan State, #2 Arkansas and #3 Nebraska are all 10-0 and all lose on new Year's Day, the Spartans by 2 points to a team they beat during the regualr season, the Razorbacks by 7 and the Cornhuskers by 11. Alabama, which had the best record of the teams that defeated them, (9-1-1 after the bowl games) and won by the biggest margain, was voted #1 by AP, evne though all the now 10-1 teams had a better record. UPI didn't vote after the bowls and so Michigan State went into the books as their national champion.

1975: Ohio State suffers the same fate as the Spartans- losing to UCLA in the Rose Bowl after haivng defeated them during the regular season. Oklahoma, who lost to Kansas 3-23, beats Michigan in the Orange Bowl and is voted #1. Both they and Ohio State are 11-1 but the Buckeyes split with the team that beat them.

1983: Nebraska loses 30-31 to Miami when a two point coversion is batted down. Miami, who lost to Florida 3-28, is 11-1 and outscored their opposition 316-136. Nebraska, 12-1, outscored theirs 654-217. It was an upset, folks!

Then there are the teams that "Won" naitonal championships because they were #1 in the alst regular seaosn poll and there was no poll after the bowls: Oklahoma 1950, Tennessee 1951, Maryland 1953, Minnesota 1960 and, ironically Alabama 1964. If SU had lost to Texas in the 1960 Cotton Bowl, we would still have been national champions.

Thsi LSU team ahs beaten more rnaked teams than anyone in history and they deserve at elast a co-championsip unless they get blown out. But they won't get it unless they win.

 

[BlazeOrange]

Say the +1 system was in place this year*: If Alabama wins a close game tomorrow, do you put the screws to Okie State one more time and have an LSU/Bama rubber match?

* Noting that most every +1 proposal I've seen has either actually been a 4-team playoff or going back to the pre-BCS bowl system, so we'd never see these two teams playing under those circumstances. But you could still get #1 vs. #2 in a bowl game and have it be a rematch, especially with the upcoming B1G/PAC12 scheduling arrangement.