Donnie Freeman injures foot

[Scooch]

You missed a few. Kadary, first and foremost. Tyler Lydon and Malachi Richardson. Quincy Guerrier, once he got healthy. I’d also argue Buddy, who was the key bench piece to the second half of the 2018-19 season (he started out slowly but caught fire by January).

1) Kadary averaged 21 mins a game in his freshman season.

2) I said 9 years because I wanted to get past the freshman-driven 2016 F4 team, that’s why I specifically didn’t mention Lydon and Malachai.

3) Buddy average 17 minutes a game as a freshman.

I’m talking about frosh who step on campus, start, and play big minutes. I think I got everyone who qualifies. That’s what people are banking on White and the Aussie doing next year, apparently.

 

[Red2003]

My thought too. If we want to be good next year, Kiyan is probably playing 15 minutes off the bench. Is Melo really going to dish out millions to bury his son on the depth chart? Kiyan's a really nice player but he's not a freshman you start and build around like Cooper Flagg.

LaLa is worth 30 mil and Kiyan is worth 40 mil as well. Melo 250 mil. No one with a brain has ever said build the program around Kiyan ever.

His high school team isn't even doing that. He came in as a 6th man most of this year because of injury and it was better for his team. He's not expecting to be a lottery pick or be in the pro's any time soon or ever. Best case he plays his way into the pro's by getting better over the next 3-4 years. Its only ridiculous comments like this that confuses people.

 

[pwong]

It’s simple. The SEC has given the country the blue print. If you want to win you better invest big time in NIL. If you want to beat Duke, you better spend $7-8 million in getting recruits and portal kids. $2-3 million will get what we’re currently seeing at SU. Red was correct in his press conference. College basketball is not the same as it was when SU was last good in 2014. The game has changed dramatically. Even Davis at North Carolina, just this week said they will finally hire a GM. The name on the jersey will no longer get you players. It’s all about the money. Either you get it and spend it or you will be a non factor moving forward. The competition to get high quality portal kids this spring is going to be fierce.

Just think, we’ve lost our three best returning players the last three years to the portal. We lost Edwards, Girard and Brown. We aren’t competitive. The guys we brought in last year seem to be good kids, but who did we fight off to get them? We’re currently not competitive in the portal. Jay Williams is a jerk, but he was correct last night. SU has to invest big time in getting better talent. This spring will tell us a lot by who we try to bring in by the portal. A good freshman class is not enough. Unless you get several top 15 kids, you’re not winning with freshman on a consistent basis. Season ticket holders should be watching.

The SEC also has some really good coaches top to bottom. Invest in coaching & invest in NIL….

 

[Cusefan0307]

LaLa is worth 30 mil and Kiyan is worth 40 mil as well. Melo 250 mil. No one with a brain has ever said build the program around Kiyan ever.

His high school team isn't even doing that. He came in as a 6th man most of this year because of injury and it was better for his team. He's not expecting to be a lottery pick or be in the pro's any time soon or ever. Best case he plays his way into the pro's by getting better over the next 3-4 years. Its only ridiculous comments like this that confuses people.

Not sure how true it is because I heard second hand, but rumor is Melo is or was looking at housing in Skaneateles.

 

[kcsu]

Not sure how true it is because I heard second hand, but rumor is Melo is or was looking at housing in Skaneateles.

Gee..

 

[Bulldog04]

Not sure how true it is because I heard second hand, but rumor is Melo is or was looking at housing in Skaneateles.

He’s been looking all over the city and Skan. He is definitely buying a house here soon. Unless he has another business venture engagement, he will be a cuse resident for 2 years. I know for a fact.

 

[tbonezone]

3) Buddy average 17 minutes a game as a freshman.

by the time we hit the conference tourney frosh buddy was averaging 35+ mpg.
2019 ACCT: 36 min against pitt in a win . 35 minutes against duke in a loss.
2019 NCAAT : 39 minutes against baylor and 2 pts in a loss .

 

[Red2003]

He’s been looking all over the city and Skan. He is definitely buying a house here soon. Unless he has another business venture engagement, he will be a cuse resident for 2 years. I know for a fact.

But what if his son doesn't start!!! Then he'll move away and shun the program! People act like Melo's personality is that he's some ridiculous helicopter parent. Meanwhile everything he's shown us is the opposite.

 

[Bulldog04]

But what if his son doesn't start!!! Then he'll move away and shun the program! People act like Melo's personality is that he's some ridiculous helicopter parent. Meanwhile everything he's shown us is the opposite.

He wants what is best for the program AND the community. Fran has won the community over and got the support for the program in return. Sure winning helps but the community has rallied. Melo will do the same. And so the mods don’t get mad- yes Donnie still has an owie lol and yes the plan is for him to come back next year. And yes he can play with Sadiq

Also, for those asking what happens if Red gets all this money and NIL help and all that and he doesn’t win. Well I think you know the answer to that.

 

[cusefan88]

He wants what is best for the program AND the community. Fran has won the community over and got the support for the program in return. Sure winning helps but the community has rallied. Melo will do the same. And so the mods don’t get mad- yes Donnie still has an owie lol and yes the plan is for him to come back next year. And yes he can play with Sadiq

Also, for those asking what happens if Red gets all this money and NIL help and all that and he doesn’t win. Well I think you know the answer to that.

We rail on S&C a lot but this off-season Donnie needs to add 15-20lbs. He does that and finds his aggression he's a lottery pick.

 

[ManleyRocks]

QUESTION - I have seen this referenced a couple of times. Is Melo’s “two year” commitment just a starting point? A kind of, let’s see what happens with Kiyan and this “venture” before I decide how much more time and money I want to invest in this?

 

[dasher]

Fennell starting or kiyan starting is laughable. Sadiq is the only freshman that could start.

You have seen a lot of Fennell?

 

[Fly Rodder]

You have seen a lot of Fennell?

I've seen a lot Syracuse basketball.

 

[Red2003]

He wants what is best for the program AND the community. Fran has won the community over and got the support for the program in return. Sure winning helps but the community has rallied. Melo will do the same. And so the mods don’t get mad- yes Donnie still has an owie lol and yes the plan is for him to come back next year. And yes he can play with Sadiq

Also, for those asking what happens if Red gets all this money and NIL help and all that and he doesn’t win. Well I think you know the answer to that.

For the last part. Public execution at half court in the dome?

 

[Red2003]

You have seen a lot of Fennell?

lots of australians here that are in the know.

 

[tbonezone]

He’s been looking all over the city and Skan. He is definitely buying a house here soon.

 

[DilemaCuse]

My biggest fear is that Syracuse booster fork over the 7-8 million to Red and he blows it because he can't coach. Then we let him go and hire a real coach and the booster never want to give that amount of money again even though it would be put to better use this time around. I feel we have one shot to show the booster it is worth it like Fran did and if we fail it will be hard to get it back.

If Fran went out with his hand out and said he needed more for X player I bet he gets it because of last season.

The money is better spent on any buyout and getting a quality coach. I tell people it starts there before you build the roster.

 

[kingtidge]

He wants what is best for the program AND the community. Fran has won the community over and got the support for the program in return. Sure winning helps but the community has rallied. Melo will do the same. And so the mods don’t get mad- yes Donnie still has an owie lol and yes the plan is for him to come back next year. And yes he can play with Sadiq

Also, for those asking what happens if Red gets all this money and NIL help and all that and he doesn’t win. Well I think you know the answer to that.

It will all be a big waste of effort and $$ if that happens... setting the table well for someone that is going to fail.

I hope more than anything that it doesn't go that way and Melo's legacy doesn't get dragged down in such a debacle, but if we're honest, the probability it goes down like that has to be fairly high at this point.

No one will be surprised if that's how it rolls, that is for sure.

 

[Zelda Zonk]

The title of this thread is… misleading.

 

[Cuse4455]

You have seen a lot of Fennell?

Yes, is he a good players? Yes. But banking on him to be our starting PG is unfair to him. Now if he's first PG off the bench, then I'd be happy but we need a PG with college success to start.

 

[SanDiegoCuse]

Red just said on Orange Nation that there will be Donnie news in the next couple of hours.

 

[grepal]

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Is that the Zeta Psi House?

 

[kingtidge]

Red just said on Orange Nation that there will be Donnie news in the next couple of hours.

 

[Scooch]

You have seen a lot of Fennell?

This place lovvvvves to dream on foreign players. We already have people saying he’ll be the starting 1 next season. Which is preposterous to say about a guy in February before this season is even over and the portal had yet to open.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

Amputation ?