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Draftexpress article on James

cuseinseattle said:
I didn't realize we played a 3-2 zone. I agree James is one dimensional. This article could have been written with far fewer words.
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most writer get paid by the word
 
He was our "de facto power forward..." I don't remember those games.
Otherwise, pretty fair and accurate, although less detailed than the MCW report. I hope he gets a chance. He could be a more versatile version of Steve Novak. James' shooting could improve still, and if he worked on ballhandling for a year or two, he'd be even more of a threat to work off screens.
 
Listen, I think James would do well in the NBA. Come off the bench, spot-up 3 type guy along with his mid range game. He is at least as good as a number of NBA players. There's no reason for him not to do well. He would adapt to the situation and style of play as well. Someone just needs to draft him.
 
Pretty good write-up. The only nonsense was the PF talk. I'm not even sure why the writer listed him as a SF/PF. He's very clearly only going to play SF in the league and Fair was obviously the PF of our offense and defense (though, we really don't distinguish between SF or PF in the zone).

I think he'll get a shot; hopefully, on a very bad team that will be forced to feed him some minutes. I think joining a good team as strictly a 3-point specialist will cripple his career. Also, I have confidence that he'll be able to guard an average SF to the point that he won't be a liability. James isn't going to be an above average defender, but it should be enough to keep him on the court for stretches.
 
Gabjon said:
Because Novak played before they moved the college line back in 2007 and he pretty much toed the line. James took mostly NBA 3s some while being heavily guard. Novak rarely shoots guarded and it is a huge knock on him in the pros.
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Did they move the free throw line. Novak's a better shooter than James.

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Capt. Tuttle said:
Did they move the free throw line. Novak's a better shooter than James.

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good point:rolleyes:! Novak is a great shooter who doesn't shoot unless he is wide open...truly great shooters (Not calling Jame a truly great shooter) take and make contested shots, although they will never have the percentages of the guy who only shoots when open. Plus James is by far a better athlete and defender than Novak....personally I prefer the comparison with Shane Battier but it's not unreasonable.
 
I don't know why there is so much angst and anticipation about this. It is pretty clear that MCW was the only NBA player on the team last year.

James should have a fairly long and lucrative career playing professional basketball, but it won't be in the NBA.

Triche will bounce around for a couple of years and then transition to coaching, where I think he will excel.

Everyone else has a lot of work to do. Some of them have potential, but none of them looked like likely NBA guys last year.
 
I agree w/ the Battier comparison. I was thinking he would be a perfect upgrade to Battier in MIA. The guy is a jack of all trades. I thik his skill set is better than Jimmy Butler's was coming out of Marquette and JB has done well in the NBA.
 
moqui said:
I don't know why there is so much angst and anticipation about this. It is pretty clear that MCW was the only NBA player on the team last year.

James should have a fairly long and lucrative career playing professional basketball, but it won't be in the NBA.

Triche will bounce around for a couple of years and then transition to coaching, where I think he will excel.

Everyone else has a lot of work to do. Some of them have potential, but none of them looked like likely NBA guys last year.
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Well, technically Fair would be an NBA player if he declared. Aside from that, though, I don't see how it is unreasonable to project Southerland as an NBA player. I think his chances are better than Triche's, anyway. In the NBA, there will always be a role for you if you can do one thing very, very well. Southerland has that one thing. I'm not saying he'll have a crazy successful career but he could be a journeyman.
 
Brooky03 said:
Well, technically Fair would be an NBA player if he declared.
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I don't think so . . . he might have gotten drafted, but I don't think he would have made a roster.

Brooky03 said:
I don't see how it is unreasonable to project Southerland as an NBA player. I think his chances are better than Triche's, anyway. In the NBA, there will always be a role for you if you can do one thing very, very well. Southerland has that one thing..
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but he doesn't do it "very very well." In this, his best year, he shot less than 40% from three - 40% is the cut off for "very very well."

there is room in the association for 3 and D wings, but Wes Johnson is having trouble carving that niche out, and James isn't nearly as good as Wes at either end of the court.

projecting that he might get a look by a few teams is reasonable, but if you honestly examine his body of work, then you simply cannot project him as an NBA player.

we all want the best for James and all SU players, but we don't have to lie to ourselves.
 
mizzou15 said:
I agree w/ the Battier comparison. I was thinking he would be a perfect upgrade to Battier in MIA. The guy is a jack of all trades. I thik his skill set is better than Jimmy Butler's was coming out of Marquette and JB has done well in the NBA.
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Jimmy Butler was always a better basketball players than James and certainly better defender. Being able to occasionally get on a hot streak to make lots of three pointers does not make you an NBA caliber basketball player

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mizzou15 said:
I agree w/ the Battier comparison. I was thinking he would be a perfect upgrade to Battier in MIA. The guy is a jack of all trades. I thik his skill set is better than Jimmy Butler's was coming out of Marquette and JB has done well in the NBA.
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I have to disagree on the Battier comparison, simply because Battier is more skilled overall, he's got a higher basketball IQ (to be fair, Battier is a smarter ballplayer than pretty much anyone), and he's a very good defender.
 
If Avery Bradley has a spot on an NBA bench then I would think there would be a spot for Dirty as a spot up shooter.
 
moqui said:
I don't think so . . . he might have gotten drafted, but I don't think he would have made a roster.


but he doesn't do it "very very well." In this, his best year, he shot less than 40% from three - 40% is the cut off for "very very well."

there is room in the association for 3 and D wings, but Wes Johnson is having trouble carving that niche out, and James isn't nearly as good as Wes at either end of the court.

projecting that he might get a look by a few teams is reasonable, but if you honestly examine his body of work, then you simply cannot project him as an NBA player.

we all want the best for James and all SU players, but we don't have to lie to ourselves.
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I think Fair would make a roster. Maybe he wouldn't start, but he'd make a roster for sure.

As for the Wes, Southerland comparison, James is likely the better defender and a better 3 point shooter. Both shot about the same percentage in their best years (Wes' only year) but James shot it almost double the amount Wes did. James showed better range, too. Wes' percentage dropped in the NBA because he doesn't have great form and he never demonstrated big time range. James' form is textbook and he showed NBA range in college. Neither can dribble, obviously.
 
moqui said:
Triche will ...then transition to coaching, where I think he will excel.
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What did you see in the past 4 years that I must have missed that leads you to think this?
 
cuseincincy said:
What did you see in the past 4 years that I must have missed that leads you to think this?
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I always thought he had a great eye for the game. He picked up the nuances of the zone defense from day 1. But often his cognition was ahead of his abilities.
 
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