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Message: [QUOTE="VirginiaOrange, post: 1641197, member: 1085"] Yeah, guys who rate recruits by stars without a clue. The same ones (most of whom have never played beyond HS 15+ years ago - if that - or coached) who said SU's early commits were "great" gets and they "really liked his tape." Or they were great "sleepers" that Shafer outsmarted everyone else on. The same commits Dino immediately dumped and whose great film has them landing at lower level schools or still waiting on offers. [/QUOTE]