Duke QB to Miami?

[FloridaCuse]

 

[FloridaCuse]

 

[HtownOrange]

The contract requires Mensah attend Duke classes only, as any scholarship used to do. If Mensah wins, it would be poetically justified if Miami refused to pay him. Anyway, I digress. Either the contract was valid and enforceable or not. I have not read the contract, there may be other clauses allowing liquidated damages.

 

[Cusefan69]

 

[Ttk.gman2]

This may be good as it will force the issue of what is legal, are the contracts enforceable, etc. We may not like the outcomes but there should be some clarification.

That sucks you sign a contract you need to be held up for it. This sport is dead sadly

 

[HyattsCuse]

Not a lawyer, but that language makes me think of non compete agreements where an employee agrees to not move to a competitor, but are often unenforceable.

 

[HtownOrange]

That sucks you sign a contract you need to be held up for it. This sport is dead sadly

It sucks that a supposed adult signs a contract and refuses to uphold his bargain. His character is shot and he will likely not live it down, even if he makes the NFL.

 

[richmondcuse03]

Not a lawyer, but that language makes me think of non compete agreements where an employee agrees to not move to a competitor, but are often unenforceable.

those are different no? they're usually for post employment at the firm in question. and often times, at will employees are made to sign those and they get nothing in return essentially.

 

[HtownOrange]

Not a lawyer, but that language makes me think of non compete agreements where an employee agrees to not move to a competitor, but are often unenforceable.

I have not read it in full but that is standard language and historically accurate, if you played for a school, you attended only that school. It's not a plot or deception.

 

[javadoc]

It sucks that a supposed adult signs a contract and refuses to uphold his bargain. His character is shot and he will likely not live it down, even if he makes the NFL.

"It profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world, but for Miami?"

 

[FloridaCuse]

The contract requires Mensah attend Duke classes only, as any scholarship used to do. If Mensah wins, it would be poetically justified if Miami refused to pay him. Anyway, I digress. Either the contract was valid and enforceable or not. I have not read the contract, there may be other clauses allowing liquidated damages.

Various reporters have reported there is no buyout.

I wonder if what was denied by the judge was the request for a TRO. If I recall correctly there is a high bar for that. While Duke could still ask for a preliminary injunction, that takes longer and this might just come down to how much for damages. And the status of Mensah's NIL rights.

I love it that Mensah's attorney wrote the contract and a court may rule against him. I'm monitoring his tweets to see if he says anything.

 

[HyattsCuse]

It sucks that a supposed adult signs a contract and refuses to uphold his bargain. His character is shot and he will likely not live it down, even if he makes the NFL.

I don’t subscribe to this at all. Plenty of prominent professional athletes hold out or manipulate trades while under a contract. You can agree or disagree with that, but plenty of times, it’s chalked up to “just business” and not a character thing (especially in football where careers are short). I find character questioning is a narrative that is trying to make someone look bad for leverage IMO.

And if a character narrative does happen, seems to me plenty of players have rebuilt their image. A guy like Randy Moss, for example.

 

[javadoc]

Various reporters have reported there is no buyout.

I wonder if what was denied by the judge was the request for a TRO. If I recall correctly there is a high bar for that. While Duke could still ask for a preliminary injunction, that takes longer and this might just come down to how much for damages. And the status of Mensah's NIL rights.

I love it that Mensah's attorney wrote the contract and a court may rule against him. I'm monitoring his tweets to see if he says anything.

My take too, it was just the TRO that was denied.

Things get more interesting, I believe, if he tries to put pen to paper on another NIL deal from Miami.

 

[Willy75]

Spineless for the ACC as a conference not to condemn this.

 

[Willy75]

My take too, it was just the TRO that was denied.

Things get more interesting, I believe, if he tries to put pen to paper on another NIL deal from Miami.

Did it even get that far, as the assigned judge has reportedly recused himself?

 

[FloridaCuse]

Did it even get that far, as the assigned judge has reportedly recused himself?

One of the tweets said he issued a denial, pending a written opinion and then recused.

 

[FloridaCuse]

 

[orangeinohio]

Standard NIL contract is going to be a few pages longer.

 

[HtownOrange]

I don’t subscribe to this at all. Plenty of prominent professional athletes hold out or manipulate trades while under a contract. You can agree or disagree with that, but plenty of times, it’s chalked up to “just business” and not a character thing (especially in football where careers are short). I find character questioning is a narrative that is trying to make someone look bad for leverage IMO.

And if a character narrative does happen, seems to me plenty of players have rebuilt their image. A guy like Randy Moss, for example.

Most contracts are not broken. Trades are included in pro contracts, sometime with approval clauses. Often there are also option clauses in which players can shop around and go to arbitration and such. I am NOT a sports contract attorney, just discussing general knowledge.

Contracts are not broken willy molly like the college deals are being broken. Business cannot happen. The pros would not accept this.

Also, how many teams welcome back a player who leaves under less than favorable conditions? Very rare and usually with some resolving matters over time. Yet we hear often of how hard a player is to work with or a prima donna, etc. Pro team owners know what they are getting and when a problem child is brought in, there are often more conditions in the contract.

 

[Newhouser]

I don’t subscribe to this at all. Plenty of prominent professional athletes hold out or manipulate trades while under a contract. You can agree or disagree with that, but plenty of times, it’s chalked up to “just business” and not a character thing (especially in football where careers are short). I find character questioning is a narrative that is trying to make someone look bad for leverage IMO.

And if a character narrative does happen, seems to me plenty of players have rebuilt their image. A guy like Randy Moss, for example.

I agree - it's like when McCaffrey's career was over when he skipped the bowl game at Stanford, or Jeremi when he left for the pro's without JB's consent. None of this is lasting or remembered.

 

[javadoc]

I don’t subscribe to this at all. Plenty of prominent professional athletes hold out or manipulate trades while under a contract. You can agree or disagree with that, but plenty of times, it’s chalked up to “just business” and not a character thing (especially in football where careers are short). I find character questioning is a narrative that is trying to make someone look bad for leverage IMO.

And if a character narrative does happen, seems to me plenty of players have rebuilt their image. A guy like Randy Moss, for example.

I do personally think people look bad for "leverage". Never liked the idea. Hit the bricks, buster.

 

[Jake]

I don’t subscribe to this at all. Plenty of prominent professional athletes hold out or manipulate trades while under a contract. You can agree or disagree with that, but plenty of times, it’s chalked up to “just business” and not a character thing (especially in football where careers are short). I find character questioning is a narrative that is trying to make someone look bad for leverage IMO.

And if a character narrative does happen, seems to me plenty of players have rebuilt their image. A guy like Randy Moss, for example.

Forcing a trade where you get something in return for a legally binding agreement is in a different stratosphere than what is happening with Mensah

 

[FloridaCuse]

 

[Oakland]

I don’t subscribe to this at all. Plenty of prominent professional athletes hold out or manipulate trades while under a contract. You can agree or disagree with that, but plenty of times, it’s chalked up to “just business” and not a character thing (especially in football where careers are short). I find character questioning is a narrative that is trying to make someone look bad for leverage IMO.

And if a character narrative does happen, seems to me plenty of players have rebuilt their image. A guy like Randy Moss, for example.

It used to be a character issue, but I guess in modern society it no longer is.

 

[FloridaCuse]