Eddie Lampkin in the portal

[Consigliere]

I won’t miss his offense but Eddie was as elite a rebounder as we have had in years. Going to need to be a much better rebounding team next year. A healthy Donnie will help but Davis and Petar, in limited minutes, were also very good on the boards.

 

[tbonezone]

 

[RedtheGOB]

I won’t miss his offense but Eddie was as elite a rebounder as we have had in years. Going to need to be a much better rebounding team next year. A healthy Donnie will help but Davis and Petar, in limited minutes, were also very good on the boards.

True, Eddie def had his rebounding moments. I think Davis's rebounding fell off a cliff near the end of the season but I could be wrong. I want nothing to do with waiting for Eddie for 3 months. That tanks any the conversation for getting any other Center from the portal.

 

[OrangeTarheel]

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

I don’t know if you’ve noticed but the Nazis are making a hell of a comeback

 

[orangepassion]

Would We Want Eddie Back If Possible ????

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He would probably price himself for more than he is worth, but if we could somehow get him back with a reduced role and let him and Kyle share the 5 spot, I think that would be great.

Would like SU to offer him a lot of money and then significantly reduce the offer after everyone has filled their spots. Would be appropo.

 

[Cheriehoop]

Don't you have to get the eligibility first before you enter the portal? Or is this too reasonable? He has no value until he's eligible. He won't get a high price if its unlikely he's eligible. Like buying a used car that doesn't run and the guy won't let you look at it.

No I read that many portal entries are appealing to get an extra year to be eligible. Most though have just played 4 full years and hoping that 5 years will be the new norm.

 

[Cheriehoop]

Get Melo, Elijah Hughes, Malachi Richardson, Oshae Brissett etc back they should all have eligibility.

 

[Eric15]

This thread is like a Real Housewives of Syracuse episode.

Eddie was a solid player for us this year, and was at or towards the top of many advanced metrics. I know he was a below average defender. It’s not his fault we didn’t have a point guard or outside shooting or guards that could defend. If we had those things he would remembered much more fondly.

We had four years of data that showed us exactly who he was prior to this season. If we gave him 800k with the expectation that he would magically transform into someone totally different, that’s just our coaching staff being idiots. That’s not Eddie’s fault.

 

[Forloveoforange]

Would like SU to offer him a lot of money and then significantly reduce the offer after everyone has filled their spots. Would be appropo.

Unfortunately, Eddie found out that his value late can still be high.

 

[Knicks411]

This thread is like a Real Housewives of Syracuse episode.

Eddie was a solid player for us this year, and was at or towards the top of many advanced metrics. I know he was a below average defender. It’s not his fault we didn’t have a point guard or outside shooting or guards that could defend. If we had those things he would remembered much more fondly.

We had four years of data that showed us exactly who he was prior to this season. If we gave him 800k with the expectation that he would magically transform into someone totally different, that’s just our coaching staff being idiots. That’s not Eddie’s fault.

You may be onto something!!!

 

[kcsu]

I hope Eddie get his wish. Dry Hump worked hard and by all accounts is a good dude.

 

[Cheriehoop]

This thread is like a Real Housewives of Syracuse episode.

Eddie was a solid player for us this year, and was at or towards the top of many advanced metrics. I know he was a below average defender. It’s not his fault we didn’t have a point guard or outside shooting or guards that could defend. If we had those things he would remembered much more fondly.

We had four years of data that showed us exactly who he was prior to this season. If we gave him 800k with the expectation that he would magically transform into someone totally different, that’s just our coaching staff being idiots. That’s not Eddie’s fault.

Yes, he actually had his best year here. He was a win for us, it was the chemistry, other deficiencies that hurt us. Defensively we would have needed a Bill Russell type etc to keep opponents from getting to the basket.

 

[M2MPrinciples]

My prediction:

 

[Newhouser]

Eventually the powers that be are going to have to tell these young men it's time to move on.

 

[newmexicuse]

I hope Eddie get his wish. Dry Hump worked hard and by all accounts is a good dude.

I thought he was one of the few on the team who improved throughout the season, particularly his rebounding and FT shooting. If he just had a little bit of hops he could be really good.

 

[kuethstheman]

Eddie was a solid player for us this year, and was at or towards the top of many advanced metrics. I know he was a below average defender. It’s not his fault we didn’t have a point guard or outside shooting or guards that could defend. If we had those things he would remembered much more fondly.

I think of it as the other way around. If Lumpkin defended the PnR even adequately, our guards would have been shown to be decent defenders (well, not JJ). Almost every time his man set a pick, he backed away, making it impossible for the person being picked to have a chance, no matter how they played it.

I don't know if Lumpkin should get all of the blame for his PnR defense (vs. the coaches). Once or twice early in the season he actually came out and slowed down the ball-handler (almost like he knew how you're supposed to do it). It seems to me that the coaches wanted him to back off of the pick (maybe to avoid fouling, since they seemed to have so little confidence in McCloud). Otherwise, why would he purposely avoid even trying?

 

[Cheriehoop]

I think of it as the other way around. If Lumpkin defended the PnR even adequately, our guards would have been shown to be decent defenders (well, not JJ). Almost every time his man set a pick, he backed away, making it impossible for the person being picked to have a chance, no matter how they played it.

I don't know if Lumpkin should get all of the blame for his PnR defense (vs. the coaches). Once or twice early in the season he actually came out and slowed down the ball-handler (almost like he knew how you're supposed to do it). It seems to me that the coaches wanted him to back off of the pick (maybe to avoid fouling, since they seemed to have so little confidence in McCloud). Otherwise, why would he purposely avoid even trying?

Maybe they had little confidence with who could guard and switch to the big man he was leaving alone???

 

[Eric15]

I think of it as the other way around. If Lumpkin defended the PnR even adequately, our guards would have been shown to be decent defenders (well, not JJ). Almost every time his man set a pick, he backed away, making it impossible for the person being picked to have a chance, no matter how they played it.

I don't know if Lumpkin should get all of the blame for his PnR defense (vs. the coaches). Once or twice early in the season he actually came out and slowed down the ball-handler (almost like he knew how you're supposed to do it). It seems to me that the coaches wanted him to back off of the pick (maybe to avoid fouling, since they seemed to have so little confidence in McCloud). Otherwise, why would he purposely avoid even trying?

I'll agree with anything you say as long as you say Lampkin instead of Lumpkin.

 

[kuethstheman]

Maybe they had little confidence with who could guard and switch to the big man he was leaving alone???

Perhaps, but a common way to defend the PnR is not to switch, but for the center to come out to slow down the ball-handler down just long enough for the guard to recover. Then back off and cover their original man.

Everybody liked to blame the guards for going under picks, but given Lampkin's non-participation, that was the only way to keep the ball-handler from getting an uncontested lay-up (not that it always worked).

 

[Cusefan0307]

A lot of us work with people younger than Lampkin.

 

[miamicuse]

Where is Lumpkin in terms of getting a degree?

There is a 6th year waiver for extraordinary circumstances.

• 5-Year Clock:
  NCAA Division I student-athletes have five years to compete athletically in four seasons.
  
  
• Full-Time Enrollment:
  The 5-year clock starts when you enroll as a full-time student at any college.
  
  
• 4 Seasons:
  You have 5 years to compete in 4 seasons, meaning you can't play in a 5th season unless you have a medical hardship or other special circumstances.
• Exceptions and Waivers:
• • Medical Hardship Waiver: Granted if injury prevents significant competition.
    
    
  • Sixth Year Waiver: Available under extraordinary circumstances.
    
    
  • Transfer Exceptions: Rules vary for transferring between divisions.

 

[atlanticuse]

Eventually the powers that be are going to have to tell these young men it's time to move on.

You can’t call a 30 year old who jumps like he’s 60 a “young man”

 

[atlanticuse]

Where is Lumpkin in terms of getting a degree?

There is a 6th year waiver for extraordinary circumstances.

• 5-Year Clock:
  NCAA Division I student-athletes have five years to compete athletically in four seasons.
  
  
• Full-Time Enrollment:
  The 5-year clock starts when you enroll as a full-time student at any college.
  
  
• 4 Seasons:
  You have 5 years to compete in 4 seasons, meaning you can't play in a 5th season unless you have a medical hardship or other special circumstances.
• Exceptions and Waivers:
• • Medical Hardship Waiver: Granted if injury prevents significant competition.
    
    
  • Sixth Year Waiver: Available under extraordinary circumstances.
    
    
  • Transfer Exceptions: Rules vary for transferring between divisions.

Extraordinary….

 

[grepal]

If our team adds no one else new would say of us be opposed to bringing back Petar and Cuffe for added depth. They always brought good energy and effort. Worse case scenario they are very tough practice guys.

 

[dasher]

If our team adds no one else new would say of us be opposed to bringing back Petar and Cuffe for added depth. They always brought good energy and effort. Worse case scenario they are very tough practice guys.

I think those guys left for a reason. They want to play more.