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[QUOTE="OrangePA, post: 172065, member: 204"]
A five game losing streak means that in five games the opposition scored more points than the Orange.
 
It doesn't mean that Doug Marrone lost the team. Do I gather from your post that Tom Coughlin lost the team when the Giants lost four games this fall?
 
I still don't get your issue with player discipline. Are you suggesting that Philip Thomas - who was not kicked off the team - should not have been disciplined?  Or are you suggesting that Doug caused Thomas to do whatever he did to warrant the one year suspension? Are you suggesting that Doug caused Marcus Sales to ride in the car with his brother that night? I think you fail to recognize that in an effort to improve the quality of the team, Marrone probably decided to take a few chances with certain players e.g. E.J. Carter. I remember similar things happening in the past with the program during rebuilding periods. I remember when, in 1975, Frank Maloney kicked a monster DL off the team - Marvin Powers - who was going to dominate the following year. 
 
The fact is that in today's game, you see players being disciplined all the time. 
 
I was at the Pitt game - the final game of the year. The Orange did not play "tight." After making a few mistakes at the outset, the Orange played hard, physical football.
 
The players didn't lose heart that day, they ran out of time.
 
And the fact is that with respect to USF, Cincy, and Louisville they played a bunch of teams toward the end of the season that were simply better than they were.
 
The loss to UConn was a bad loss. The defense simply failed to show up for the second half. And yet, we still should have won the game on our final drive.
 
So, I really don't buy the "lost the team" talk.
 
Last year was part of the process.
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