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Message: [QUOTE="Finwad32, post: 2636401, member: 651"] And yet, as far as W's are concerned thus far... Terrible or not. The exaggeration of SS's lack of coaching skills, on this board, is borderline laughable, As is the "left the cupboard bare" argument. He left the cupboard the same way he inherited it. Doug Marrone was a fantastic coach, not a fantastic recruiter of talent. Syracuse's recruiting has been relatively consistent for the past two decades, second to third tier. Shafe certainly had an odd presser or two, and he misfired on the OC hiring initially, which was his ultimate downfall here. But to say he can't coach, well it's just false. Don't take my word for it, ask Jim Harbaugh or Doug Marrone. [/QUOTE]