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Message: [QUOTE="OttoMets, post: 2638621, member: 716"] Ultimately. But right off the bat they laid that turd against Villanova. Then Maryland, then The Idiot Offensive Coordinator going crazy in the booth against Louisville. And so forth. Shafer had problems with a full roster and he also struggled with injuries. He was not a good head coach (how "not good" he was I'll leave for others to decide) and he made things much worse with his indefensible hires. I'd have ducked out of the thread by now but I've gotta push back and restate that I really have no respect for adult professionals who make the kids' lives more difficult. And that's what the staff did with people like Jerome Smith and Rob Trudo, guys who expected and deserved professional instruction and instead were stuck with the incompetence of McDonald and Joe Adam. [/QUOTE]