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Message: [QUOTE="OttoMets, post: 2641185, member: 716"] It's been so long and I've repeated it so many times that I can't remember if there was an actual news citation or this was just a board story from an insider. But my memory is that Perles went to Shafer and said "Thanks, but I can't work for this scatterbrain anymore" and took a Canadian or arena football job instead. And then Joe Adam... I won't dump on him like I do McDonald because there's no evidence that he was a jackass, just a totally unqualified line coach. It really calls Shafer's judgment into question. [/QUOTE]