Evans vs. Shewell

[OttosDad]

No offense to JE22 but he's just not really getting the job done out there. He has 6 goals I believe, which is fine, but Shewell has 4, in far less action. I wonder if Desko would ever pull him off the field because right now he is the weakest link on attack, he forces it too much and turns it over.

Shewell on the other hand is made for this team especially when Piroli gets back. He's got a great righty 10 yard shot and, I know he's not the dodger Evans is, but seems to be comfortable getting shots off with poles on him. He is pretty big and could even make for a good crease guy.

I don't think Desko will pull Evans, but to me there seems like some capable guys behind him, especially Shewell. I also think Thorpe would make for a great crease guy.

 

[ThruWayWest]

If Evans wore #45 would be get this much heat?

He is being a bit more careful with the ball lately. Liked the ride against UVa and Army. Not that I don't Shewell but think Evans deserves more time.

 

[creatorsgam]

No offense to JE22 but he's just not really getting the job done out there. He has 6 goals I believe, which is fine, but Shewell has 4, in far less action. I wonder if Desko would ever pull him off the field because right now he is the weakest link on attack, he forces it too much and turns it over.

Shewell on the other hand is made for this team especially when Piroli gets back. He's got a great righty 10 yard shot and, I know he's not the dodger Evans is, but seems to be comfortable getting shots off with poles on him. He is pretty big and could even make for a good crease guy.

I don't think Desko will pull Evans, but to me there seems like some capable guys behind him, especially Shewell. I also think Thorpe would make for a great crease guy.

Both Shewell and Thorpe need to keep playing so Desko can't keep them off the field.

If only they could run some middie.

 

[OttosDad]

Both Shewell and Thorpe need to keep playing so Desko can't keep them off the field.

If only they could run some middie.

Agree, wish there was room for them on the field, but not sure Shewell could run middie. He's too slow. Thorpe probably could though.

 

[4evaOrange]

I think you have to let evans stay on attack, let him get more play under his feet, an hope he gets better, which is my guess he will. But if he keeps struggling, give him 3 more games, then give shewell, thorpe, voigt, an whoever else a shot.

 

[WoodyUK]

I think there is a huge argument for Evans, I like Shewells game and he'll be great in future years, the main points of the argument for 22 in my opinion are that he's had two years of being banged up, still played and did a good job, he didn't hide and played in many roles for the benefit of the team!
He has experience at d mid, off mid and now at attack and we have to appreciate what he's done. Everyone knows he was an attackman and now he is getting back into the flow, yes it may take a few weeks but desko and co know what they are doing!

Evans is a great talent and we need to concentrate on the good things he has done over the last few weeks, he made the dodge to draw the slide for Barber to get free for the winner against Army, rode hard to get DeJoe his goal at uva and controlled the ball at the end of the game to run down the clock, has scored some great goals and has shared the ball, he's playing within himself and is facilitating for the good of the team. He's great at the little things and the larger parts of his game will follow,

I remember people saying the same about JoJo and now everyone remembers him with positive thoughts!

This kid will work it out, he's had two years of pressure and injuries, I think he deserves some time to get back into the swing of things and find his Rhythm, 22 is doing a great job and is the perfect attackman to throw in with Dylan, Barber or Piroli!

 

[OttosDad]

I think there is a huge argument for Evans, I like Shewells game and he'll be great in future years, the main points of the argument for 22 in my opinion are that he's had two years of being banged up, still played and did a good job, he didn't hide and played in many roles for the benefit of the team!
He has experience at d mid, off mid and now at attack and we have to appreciate what he's done. Everyone knows he was an attackman and now he is getting back into the flow, yes it may take a few weeks but desko and co know what they are doing!

Evans is a great talent and we need to concentrate on the good things he has done over the last few weeks, he made the dodge to draw the slide for Barber to get free for the winner against Army, rode hard to get DeJoe his goal at uva and controlled the ball at the end of the game to run down the clock, has scored some great goals and has shared the ball, he's playing within himself and is facilitating for the good of the team. He's great at the little things and the larger parts of his game will follow,

I remember people saying the same about JoJo and now everyone remembers him with positive thoughts!

This kid will work it out, he's had two years of pressure and injuries, I think he deserves some time to get back into the swing of things and find his Rhythm, 22 is doing a great job and is the perfect attackman to throw in with Dylan, Barber or Piroli!

I hope you're right, I just think that if Evans is continuing to produce at this rate, which is reasonably slow. I think he's averaging about 2 points per game. If that continues, Desko should just look at some of the other options on the team, because many of them seem capable.

 

[Orangello]

I hope you're right, I just think that if Evans is continuing to produce at this rate, which is reasonably slow. I think he's averaging about 2 points per game. If that continues, Desko should just look at some of the other options on the team, because many of them seem capable.

I agree. At some point it's fish or cut bait time. He's hustling and working but the turnovers and lack of production are very very costly. I'm terrified every time he has the ball.

 

[OttosDad]

I agree. At some point it's fish or cut bait time. He's hustling and working but the turnovers and lack of production are very very costly. I'm terrified every time he has the ball.

Exactly. Its not that the guys behind him are incapable either. I know he offers some dodging ability, but His production needs to come up. I will say I've been very impressed with his hustle on the ride.

 

[essorcaltun]

I think there is a huge argument for Evans, I like Shewells game and he'll be great in future years, the main points of the argument for 22 in my opinion are that he's had two years of being banged up, still played and did a good job, he didn't hide and played in many roles for the benefit of the team!
He has experience at d mid, off mid and now at attack and we have to appreciate what he's done. Everyone knows he was an attackman and now he is getting back into the flow, yes it may take a few weeks but desko and co know what they are doing!

Evans is a great talent and we need to concentrate on the good things he has done over the last few weeks, he made the dodge to draw the slide for Barber to get free for the winner against Army, rode hard to get DeJoe his goal at uva and controlled the ball at the end of the game to run down the clock, has scored some great goals and has shared the ball, he's playing within himself and is facilitating for the good of the team. He's great at the little things and the larger parts of his game will follow,

I remember people saying the same about JoJo and now everyone remembers him with positive thoughts!

This kid will work it out, he's had two years of pressure and injuries, I think he deserves some time to get back into the swing of things and find his Rhythm, 22 is doing a great job and is the perfect attackman to throw in with Dylan, Barber or Piroli!

I'm not seeing what you're seeing Woody. What I'm seeing is a liability in #22. He can't play at this level and it's clearly evident, he peaked in high school. Doesn't make him a bad person. The TO he caused in the Va. game, an eighth grader could have done. The Dman hung about two feet of his stick out right in front of him, it really was a gimmie. Good on him for making the play, but c'mon it's was an intramural level mistake made by the Dguy and Evans took advantage.
Disagree that he's done a good job for two years. Has dropped passes in front of the cage, (he panics) hit the pipe, fall down...whatever it takes to not finish, he does. Any goal he scores is when he has plenty of distance between himself and any defender. When the heat is on, he's simply not effective. Falls down easily, looses the ball way too often...again, he's been a liability. Cost 'em a couple of goals in the Va game with his TOs. I was once a huge fan of his, gave him every break in the world, made all the excuses you can...no more, I've seen enough. He is what he is and that's not going to change. I really fear that he is going to cost this team big time and at the most crucial time, too. If he weren't wearing #22 I really have to wonder if he'd be seeing the field at all. Desko's in a real spot with that.

 

[Whitey23]

At this point if they don't have another player on the roster that can contribute as much as Evans then we are in trouble. I vote to move him to midfield and let someone younger get the experience.

 

[im4cuse]

well we will have our answer soon enough -- next 3 games , won't we?

 

[OttosDad]

Nice to see JE22 have a solid game against St. John's. 2 goals, 2 assists, was a nice day for him at attack. I know it was against a weak squad in St. John's but still, he played really well, was happy to see that. I also don't think he had any turnovers, at the most 1. Hopefully his production continues against Hopkins and he continues to improve throughout the season.

 

[jr4750]

Just weighing in here, but I think of Evans as much more of a facilitator than Shewell. Shewell seems to be a gunner at this point to me, and #22 is someone who can generate points for other players. Not sure they are entirely interchangeable at this point in their careers. One thing we need more of it passers, as we already have our best pure scorer in years, having to generate his own opportunities.

That said, Evans has struggled, minus the SJU game. He simply can't have the horrible TO's he has had this year during the next three games. The opponents are too good.

 

[OttosDad]

Evans stat line yesterday, fine with the lack of points, I realize and have accepted that he's not going to score 3 goals and have 2 assists every game, he's just not that good. But the thing that just kills me is the turnovers, can't have those turnovers if they want to win.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Evans stat line yesterday, fine with the lack of points, I realize and have accepted that he's not going to score 3 goals and have 2 assists every game, he's just not that good. But the thing that just kills me is the turnovers, can't have those turnovers if they want to win.

Turnovers: Evans 3, Donahue 3, Barber 2 (I don't know if that includes his offsides penalty), Salcido 1, McKinney 1, Cifferi 1.

Plenty of blame to go around.

 

[OttosDad]

Turnovers: Evans 3, Donahue 3, Barber 2 (I don't know if that includes his offsides penalty), Salcido 1, McKinney 1, Cifferi 1.

Plenty of blame to go around.

No doubt especially the Ciferri one, that was the real killer, they were up 2 with 3mins to go, then Ciferri turned it over. But its just frustrating to see him struggle so much out there especially considering how highly touted he was.

 

[PhatOrange]

Evans isn't that good especially when you consider he's not drawing the top defensmen. Heck he's not even in the opponents defensive game plan. Just brutal to watch force so much.

 

[W'boro'Cuse315]

From what I've seen, Evans is at his best when cutting off-ball (when he finishes) & Mariano's at his best dodging 1-on-1. If Piroli still can't go, wouldn't it makes sense to swap those 2, NM to A & JE to middie?

 

[OttosDad]

From what I've seen, Evans is at his best when cutting off-ball (when he finishes) & Mariano's at his best dodging 1-on-1. If Piroli still can't go, wouldn't it makes sense to swap those 2, NM to A & JE to middie?

Not a bad idea, Mariano's natural position is attack, and Evans played a lot of middle his first 2 seasons here. Its worth a shot, but doubt that Desko pulls the trigger and makes the change.

 

[PhatOrange]

yeah no way would Desko pull the trigger. Evans is Cooney status right now. There's nothing that is going to pull him out of the lineup or change his position. You just have to hope he gets better.

 

[JeremyCuse]

Evans was more of a disaster at midfield then he has been at attack so I don't see Desko making the move even though I think Mariano would flourish at attack. Regardless Desko clearly has given mariano the green light so he has dodged from X and is almost playing a quasi middie/attack position at this point. Again it all boils down to Piroli, if we can ever get him back the offense instantly becomes better if not we will continue to have long draughts against other good teams. Lack of offensive depth is a killer right now due to the recruiting issues of the 2013 and 2014 classes.

 

[dave h]

Mariano has looked great so far this season and deserves to be on the field more, a switch to attack to have him on the field all the time would make sense for me.

I'm not sure exactly what Evans role is on attack? He isn't a clinical finisher or an elite dodger vs the pole and where I was hoping he would become the feeder to Donahue off ball it simply hasn't happened.

I am loathe to criticise any player, the attack and EMO doesn't look balanced currently, DeJoe has been on EMO the past few years but now in his senior season as a starting middie he misses out. Mariano is a much bigger threat to feed than Evans and deserves the PT.

In my book a direct switch between Evans & Mariano could work where Evans would consistently get a SSDM and have more space to operate off ball, it would also mean that Dylan Donahue could move back to a more off ball role allowing Mariano & Barber to carry and feed.

Evans may have a big game this weekend as Duke have been guilty of a lot of ball watching on D so far this season, he should get good looks let's hope he bags them and has a breakout game.

 

[Whitey23]

Mariano has looked great so far this season and deserves to be on the field more, a switch to attack to have him on the field all the time would make sense for me.

I'm not sure exactly what Evans role is on attack? He isn't a clinical finisher or an elite dodger vs the pole and where I was hoping he would become the feeder to Donahue off ball it simply hasn't happened.

I am loathe to criticise any player, the attack and EMO doesn't look balanced currently, DeJoe has been on EMO the past few years but now in his senior season as a starting middie he misses out. Mariano is a much bigger threat to feed than Evans and deserves the PT.

In my book a direct switch between Evans & Mariano could work where Evans would consistently get a SSDM and have more space to operate off ball, it would also mean that Dylan Donahue could move back to a more off ball role allowing Mariano & Barber to carry and feed.

Evans may have a big game this weekend as Duke have been guilty of a lot of ball watching on D so far this season, he should get good looks let's hope he bags them and has a breakout game.

It's really tough to watch and at this point you have to hope Desko is keeping him in to save face. The alternative would be that they have no one better and that's frightening to think of.