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Message: [QUOTE="Tobias Funke, post: 4224179, member: 850"] I am sure they do n hindsight, but in 2018 Honda was not effective, and frankly there was no sign that they would be. It was Red Bull's involvement that pushed them over the hump. The biggest thing I look at is that the red bull car including the Honda engine is strong, but you can't just slap an engine in and it solves for everything. One interesting thing that factors in a lot this year is fuel. Seems Shell is ahead of the game on how to manage the fuel.. [/QUOTE]