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Final Net Points, etc.


Bored Historian
Aug 26, 2011
In past years I made a report called “Net Points, etc.” after each game. I’ve decided to try to find ways to cut back on the time I spent doing these posts. I’ve decided to do them once a month rather than after each game.

Again, the ‘net points’ (NP) formula is to add up all the positives in the box scores for each player: points (p), rebounds (r), assists (a), steals (s) and blocks (b) and subtract the negatives: missed field goals (mfg), missed free throws (mft), turnovers (to) and personal fouls (pf). In addition to NP, I provide offensive efficiency (OE) and floor game (FG). OE is p – (mfg + mft), the points you are producing minus the missed shots you are making trying to produce them. FG is NP – OE. What are you doing for – or to- your team other than the attempts to score points. These numbers are all per 40 minutes of play. I also offer the average minutes per the number of games the player has played. Only recruited players are listed. Walk-ons, even if they get scholarships, are not. Players are listed by average minutes played per game.

All numbers are from the ‘stats’ page and game box scores, (see ‘schedule’) on
Men's Basketball - Syracuse University Athletics
Here are my numbers after November:
Net Points, etc. after November
December: Net Points, etc. - after December
January: Net points, etc. after January

JJ Starling 34.4m
15.4p 3.7r 2.2a 1.0s 0.2b = 22.5+
7.3mfg 0.6mft 2.0to 1.5pf = 11.4-
11.1NP 7.5OE, 3.6FG
JJ got off to a slow start but turned into the scorer we’d hoped for in the second half of the season.
His other numbers are what you’d expect from a shooting guard. He can hit threes, drive to the basket or pull up to score. He may have some defensive lapses at times but shooting guards are in there for their offense. He played the most minutes of anyone on the team.

Judah Mintz 34.0m
22.2p 3.8r 5.2a 2.5s 0.1b = 33.8+
8.9mfg 2.3mft 3.5to 2.6pf = 17.3-
16.5NP, 11.0OE, 5.5FG
Judah’s numbers are essentially unchanged from January. His turnovers actually went down from 3.8 to 3.5. It’s not a great assist-turnover ratio but not many point guards can put the points on the scoreboard he does. It’s assumed he’s leaving, probably for the pros even if it means the ‘G” league. It’s unfortunate both he and Quadir had 6 turnovers in what may be their last game here. They should be remembered for more than that.

Maliq Brown 29.6m
12.9p 9.7r 2.5a 3.0s 1.2b = 29.3+
2.3mfg 0.7mft 1.7to 4.1pf = 8.8-
20.5NP 9.9OE 10.6FG
Maliq’s minutes have gone up from 22.8 after December to 26.0 after January to 29.6 by the end of the season. His scoring and rebounding went down but his assists went up as the team learned to work the half-court offense through him. Even if he moves back to power forward next year, they will still be doing that. I think he’ll be more of a high post center with Naheem or somebody else as a low-post center.

Chris Bell 27.1m
17.7p 3.5r 1.0a 0.8s 1.0b = 29.3+
8.1mfg 0.3mft 1.2to 2.7pf = 12.3-
11.7NP 9.3OE 2.4FG
Chris’s scoring went up only by 0.01, which is a shock. But his missed shots declined from 9.9 to 8.1 and him minutes increased from 23.8 to 27.1. His rebounding became a little better, 3.1 to 3.5.

Justin Taylor 23.3m
8.6p 6.8r 1.7a 1.2s 0.4b = 18.7+
5.7mfg 0.6mft 1.5to 2.0pf = 9.8-
8.9NP 2.3OE 6.6FG
Another surprise: the thing that went down was his rebounding from 8.0 to 6.8. The story was that, while he couldn’t shoot anymore, at least he was hustling to help the team out in other areas. I think he just got out-sized in the ACC.

Quadir Copeland 22.3m
17.2p 8.3r 5.0a 2.6s 0.3b = 33.4+
6.5mfg 2.1mft 3.6to 4.2pf = 16.4-
17.0NP 8.6OE 8.4FG
I’m going to miss this guy and the energy he brought to this team. I thought he’d be the replacement for Judah. Like Judah, he turns the ball over too much and having an advantage there is a key part of this program’s strategy. But like Judah his other numbers are just so good he more than made up for that. I also thought his jump shot, which looks much better than Judah’s, was improving, as Miami found out. Is there any chance he’ll change his mind?

Benny Williams 17.1m
12.6p 9.3r 2.9a 2.2s 2.1b = 29.1+
7.4mfg 1.6mft 2.7to 4.4pf = 16.1-
13.0NP 3.6OE 9.4FG
Benny was supposed to be the best recruit we’d had in years. He was a bust as a freshman, showed improvement as a sophomore and let off-the field problems limit his output and end his career as a junior. A darned shame for him and for us. We really could have used him at the 4 spot down the stretch.

Naheem McLeod 14.4m
10.7P 11.9r 0.2a 0.6s 5.3b = 28.7+
2.6mfg 1.4mft 1.2to 2.2pf = 7.4-
21.3NP 6.7OE 14.6FG
Naheem has a rep of being an unproductive player but his numbers per 40 minutes of play are terrific.
He seemed at times to be playing a 33 1/3 RPM while everyone else was going at 45 but he blocked a lot of shots, was a good rebounder and avoided bad numbers. The guy I see in the FSU highlight films never emerged. Yes, they were highlight films and don’t show bad plays. But they show what a plyer is capable of and I haven’t given up on Naheem being a major contributor. It might have bene interesting to see him go up against Bacot, Hall, Burns and Post while allowing Brown to take on people his own size.

Kyle Cuffe 10.7m
11.9p 3.9r 1.9a 1.8s 0.8b = 20.3+
6.6mfg 0.9mft 2.1to 5.6pf = 15.2-
5.1NP 4.4OE 0.7FG
Cuffe has been a traditional reserve, an emergency guy when Mintz or Starling get in foul trouble. He’s a good defender and hit three treys in one game but overall just hasn’t contributed to the box score or the scoreboard very much. He was a jumping jack in his high school film but not here. Injuries may have taken their toll. Is he capable of more than we’ve seen? Who knows?

Peter Carey 5.1m
5.1p 6.8r 0.6a 1.7s 1.1b = 15.3+
5.6mfg 0.6mft 0.0to 10.1pf = 16.3-
-1.0NP -1.1OE -0.1FG
Peter hadn’t really played in a couple of years and that fouls number that eats up the rest of his line shows it. He’s game but overmatched by ACC big men and probably would be better off operating on a lower level of competition.

Mounir Hima 3.4m
3.4p 3.6p 5.5r 0.9a 0.0s 2.7b = 12.7+
0.9mfg 0.0mft 0.9to 6.4pf = 8.2-
4.5NP 2.7OE 6.4FG
Hima should have made a good back-up center but he has some kind of injury that has limited his ability to get off the ground. He seem to have given up on the sport as he did the senior day walk, even though he wasn’t a senior.

Not playing: Chance Westry (will be out the whole season?) and William Patterson, a sort of apprentice McLeod who red-shirted. I’ve heard that a coach said he was ahead of Jesse Edwards at a similar stage. Well, Jesse didn’t play much until late in his sophomore year.


Some old favorites:

Unsettled Situations
[Second Chance Points+ Points off Turnovers] divided by [Offensive Rebounds + Opposition Turnovers)
We had 803 points in 740 unsettled situations = 1.085 points/situation
They had 823 points in 724 unsettled situations = 1.137 points/situation
This surprises me because we’ve got such creative passers and athletic players. We should have had the advantage here, but our intensity varies too much.

Manufactured Possessions
(One teams rebounds + the other team’s turnovers)
We had 1,064 + 463 = 1,527
They had 1,203 + 364 = 1,567
We were +99 in takeovers but -139 in rebounds. We had the quick hands but after our injuries, not enough size up front and nobody who was really a talented or determine rebounder.

Fast Break Percentage
(FBP/(defensive rebounds + blocks + steals)
We scored 411 FBP in 1,206 opportunities (34.1%)
They scored 370 FBP in 1,136 opportunities (32.6%)
In January we had just 79 fast break points to 114. After that it was 137-120, an interesting turn-around. One sad stat: Syracuse University had 1 fast break point in the regular season ending loss at Clemson. We had 19 defensive rebounds in that game but no blocks and just 4 steals. 22 opportunities and all we got out of it was a free throw.

First Chance Points
(First Chance Points, which is total points - second chance points – fast break points – free throws made)
We had 2,442 – 258 – 411 – 457 = 1,316 FCP
They had 2,420 - 392 – 370 – 372 = 1,286 FCP
We are doing better in our initial sets than I would have expected with our lack of jump shooting. We’re got hurt by a lack of second chance points. (See unsettled situations.) We seem to give up a lot of threes after offensive rebounds.

(The percentage of a team’s baskets that were assisted)
We assisted 442 of our 883 field goals = 50.1%
They assisted 456 of their 899 field goals = 50.7%
Assists are given for jump shots more than anything else but we have such a good passing teams and are trying to run every time we can, so we could get quite a few of them.

Team Offensive Possession Efficiency
If we just use FGA + (47.5% FTA) and thus count an offensive rebound as an additional possession and a turnover as a lost possession:
We scored 2,442 points in 2,216 possessions = 1.102 points/ possession
They scored 2,420 points in 2,207 possessions = 1.097 points/possession
The difference may be all those Judah free throws. We attempted 634 to the opposition’s 511.

Team Shooting Efficiency
We scored 2,442 points on 1,265 two-point attempts, 650 three-point attempts and 634 free throw attempts = 2,442 of a possible 5,114 points = 47.8% of possible points scored.
They scored 2,420 points on 1,232 two-point attempts, 732 three-point attempts and 511 free throw attempts = 2,420 of a possible 5,171 points = 46.8% of possible points scored.
Driving to the basket and running increases your efficiency, even if they are two-point shots.

(Most fouls are called on two point shot attempts.)
We attempted 1,265 two-point shots and were fouled 512 times = 2.47
They attempted 1,232 two-point shots and were fouled 493 times = 2.50
If there is a bias against us – or for us, as opposing fans might think with all the calls Judah got, it doesn’t show up in the numbers.

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