Final OOC Stats

[rrlbees]

Scoring
Battle 20.1 (3rd ACC 46th NCAA)

Rebounds
Brissett 10.0 (4th ACC 19th NCAA)

Assists
Howard 6.2 (3rd ACC 22nd NCAA)

Steals
Howard 2.3 (2nd ACC 26th NCAA)

Blocks
Chukwu 3.2 (2nd ACC 9th NCAA)

Also, Brissett is 16th in the NCAA with 7 double doubles.

 

[DonLightfoot]

WOW. I would say that is quite impressive.

 

[tee1222]

Team Stats
SU Blocks, ranked 9th in NCAA at 6.38 per
SU Steals, ranked 20th in NCAA at 8.92 per
and here's a surprise
SU Rebounds......wait for it.....9th in NCAA! 42.1 per game
Also 7th in offensive rebounds per game at 14.8

 

[br801]

Scoring
Battle 20.1 (3rd ACC 46th NCAA)

Rebounds
Brissett 10.0 (4th ACC 19th NCAA)

Assists
Howard 6.2 (3rd ACC 22nd NCAA)

Steals
Howard 2.3 (2nd ACC 26th NCAA)

Blocks
Chukwu 3.2 (2nd ACC 9th NCAA)

Also, Brissett is 16th in the NCAA with 7 double doubles.

Howard, Brissett and Chukwu have far exceeded any reasonable expectations. Great job!

 

[Fly Rodder]

If they're going to win conference games, they're going to need similar production out of the defense.

 

[007]

If they're going to win conference games, they're going to need similar production out of the defense.

I agree. But at the end of the day, winning or losing in the ACC is going to come down to offense for this team

 

[cuseattle]

The third and fourth leading NCAA rebounders are Govan (Georetown) and Thompson IV (EMU).

 

[jncuse]

Stats that we are in the top 20 in the NCAA (this has some fancy stats as well), including some of the same as OP.

2017-18 Leaders | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Total FGA - 208 - Tyus Battle (#20)

Total Rebounds - 130 - Oshae Brissett (#17),
Per Game 10.0 (#19)

Total Assists - 80 - Frank Howard (#20)

Total Steals - 30 - Frank Howard (#16)

Total Blocks - 43 - Pascal Chukwu (#7),
Blocks Per Game 3.3 - (#7)
Block % - 17.6 -(#3)

Total Turnovers - 52 - Frank Howard (#4)

Minutes per Game - 37.2 - Tyus Battle (#9)
Minutes per Game - 36.8 - Frank Howard (#19)

Defensive Box Plus Minus - 12.1 - Pascal Chukwu (#1)
(Not sure how this is measured but it is nice to be #1)

 

[cliftonparksufan]

The third and fourth leading NCAA rebounders are Govan (Georetown) and Thompson IV (EMU).

Last nights game could have changed dramatically if Thompson wasn't in foul trouble. He's a good player. As is Govan.

 

[tbonezone]

also win place and show...
battle 37.2
brisset 37.0
howard 36.8

numbers 1,2,and 3 in minutes per game played in the ACC.
all three are also top 20 nationally !

 

[CuseFaninVT]

also win place and show...
battle 37.2
brisset 37.0
howard 36.8

numbers 1,2,and 3 in minutes per game played in the ACC.
all three are also top 20 nationally !

And those are the numbers that I believe are unsustainable. We just finished the OOC! Those numbers are likely to rise now that we are entering league play. I know JB doesn't believe these guys are susceptible to overuse/injury from these many minutes, but I think he might be miscalculating the math on that one.

 

[tbonezone]

it's not just this year . it's every year. at least 2 in the top 10 mpg. sometimes 2 in the top 5 !
this is not an outlier stat due to injuries or sanctions . it's boeheim's basic philosophy.

 

[UnknownOrange]

Okay sorry I have to show some bad ones! Don't kill me!!

3P% - 323rd in the country at 29.8%
2p% - 274th in the country at 42.8%

Please shoot better!! Would love it if all these positive stats stay like this and we improve the shooting!

 

[tbonezone]

NCAA leaders in minutes played.

Demontrae Jefferson Texas Southern Tigers G38.70
Kurk Lee Drexel Dragons G38.46
Sammy Mojica Drexel Dragons G37.69
Nick Weiler-Babb Iowa State Cyclones G37.55
Jalen Adams Connecticut Huskies G37.45
Yuta Watanabe George Washington Colonials G37.31
Ahmad Caver Old Dominion Monarchs G37.25
Ryan Daly Delaware Blue Hens G37.23
Tyus Battle Syracuse Orange G37.15
Sa'eed Nelson American U. Eagles G37.09
J.R. Lynch Hartford Hawks G37.00
Eric Lockett Florida International Golden Panthers G37.00
Peyton Aldridge Davidson Wildcats F37.00
Jon Elmore Marshall Thundering Herd G37.00
Oshae Brissett Syracuse Orange F37.00
Emmett Naar St. Mary's Gaels G36.93
Justin Wright-Foreman Hofstra Pride G36.92
Devin Cannady Princeton Tigers G36.86
Frank Howard Syracuse Orange G36.77
Mike Smith Columbia Lions G36.73
Darius Thompson Western Kentucky Hilltoppers G36.71
Jair Bolden George Washington Colonials G36.69
Ahmaad Rorie Montana Grizzlies G36.62
Martez Walker Oakland Golden Grizzlies G36.57
Shake Milton Southern Methodist Mustangs G36.572
Matthew Butler Tenn-Martin Skyhawks G36.57
Laurynas Motuzis American U. Eagles G36.55
RJ Cole Howard Bison G36.53

now check out all the blue bloods on that list. all the top 25 programs !
(texas southern,drexel,hartford hawks, the gaels, the pride, the howard bisons and belmont bruins etc. )
if this was such a great strategy (playing your starters 40 minutes a game ) then perhaps duke,kansas and nova might catch on....
it's not.

 

[CusefanATL]

WOW. I would say that is quite impressive.

stats can look nice when only 6.5 players are playing.

prob dont want to look up 3p shooting or fg percentage. Oshae as an individual may be in last place in the country in fg% with a reasonable amount of attempts. (thats a wild, somewhat educated, guess)

Rebounding shouold be nice.

 

[HoustonCuse]

NCAA leaders in minutes played.

Demontrae Jefferson Texas Southern Tigers G38.70
Kurk Lee Drexel Dragons G38.46
Sammy Mojica Drexel Dragons G37.69
Nick Weiler-Babb Iowa State Cyclones G37.55
Jalen Adams Connecticut Huskies G37.45
Yuta Watanabe George Washington Colonials G37.31
Ahmad Caver Old Dominion Monarchs G37.25
Ryan Daly Delaware Blue Hens G37.23
Tyus Battle Syracuse Orange G37.15
Sa'eed Nelson American U. Eagles G37.09
J.R. Lynch Hartford Hawks G37.00
Eric Lockett Florida International Golden Panthers G37.00
Peyton Aldridge Davidson Wildcats F37.00
Jon Elmore Marshall Thundering Herd G37.00
Oshae Brissett Syracuse Orange F37.00
Emmett Naar St. Mary's Gaels G36.93
Justin Wright-Foreman Hofstra Pride G36.92
Devin Cannady Princeton Tigers G36.86
Frank Howard Syracuse Orange G36.77
Mike Smith Columbia Lions G36.73
Darius Thompson Western Kentucky Hilltoppers G36.71
Jair Bolden George Washington Colonials G36.69
Ahmaad Rorie Montana Grizzlies G36.62
Martez Walker Oakland Golden Grizzlies G36.57
Shake Milton Southern Methodist Mustangs G36.572
Matthew Butler Tenn-Martin Skyhawks G36.57
Laurynas Motuzis American U. Eagles G36.55
RJ Cole Howard Bison G36.53

now check out all the blue bloods on that list. all the top 25 programs !
(texas southern,drexel,hartford hawks, the gaels, the pride, the howard bisons and belmont bruins etc. )
if this was such a great strategy (playing your starters 40 minutes a game ) then perhaps duke,kansas and nova might catch on...
it's not.

Perharps KU, Duke, Nova have more than 7 scholarship players? I know JB has done this in recent years but I'm not sure what the use of complaining about it this year is. There is no choice. You will see Chukwu on this list as the season wears on unless fouls prevent it.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Perharps KU, Duke, Nova have more than 7 scholarship players? I know JB has done this in recent years but I'm not sure what the use of complaining about it this year is. There is no choice. You will see Chukwu on this list as the season wears on unless fouls prevent it.

Rotating Washington in for more experience in the preseason would have been somewhat easy to do and would give Battle assistance in recovering from his back. JB is stubborn to a fault. It will hurt at the end of the year.

 

[Sgt Cuse]

Rotating Washington in for more experience in the preseason would have been somewhat easy to do and would give Battle assistance in recovering from his back. JB is stubborn to a fault. It will hurt at the end of the year.

You sound pretty definite, factual even. But you don't know it will hurt at the end of the year. And I'm sure you won't come back and revisit, if it in fact does not make one bit of difference.

And what about the flip side, the potential positives of having them play large minutes? Like knowing how to pace themselves, or developing a team strategy to accommodate the lack of depth and substitutions - ie slowing the game down.

 

[HoustonCuse]

Rotating Washington in for more experience in the preseason would have been somewhat easy to do and would give Battle assistance in recovering from his back. JB is stubborn to a fault. It will hurt at the end of the year.

Possibly but without those non conference wins we have no chance at the tournament and very few of them were walk overs. I think JB needs to go for broke this year with the team we have. It's high risk but it's really the only hope this year.

 

[br801]

Possibly but without those non conference wins we have no chance at the tournament and very few of them were walk overs. I think JB needs to go for broke this year with the team we have. It's high risk but it's really the only hope this year.

That's the thing. Most of these games have been close, and Thorpe was getting minutes while he was with the team. The walk-ons have played a total of 9 minutes to this point. Washington will have to gain experience in practice and be ready when called upon.

 

[tbonezone]

" Like knowing how to pace themselves ..."
is that code speak for taking plays off and not going 100 % every possession ?

 

[Dave85]

it's not just this year . it's every year. at least 2 in the top 10 mpg. sometimes 2 in the top 5 !
this is not an outlier stat due to injuries or sanctions . it's boeheim's basic philosophy.

I thought about this a lot a few years ago. When we play in NCAA tournament there is a lot of commercials. So some players having too much PT turns out not to be a problem once we get in to the tournament.

However, you could argue giving more PT to more players makes a deeper bench. There's trade-offs in all these decisions.

 

[Sherman20]

NCAA leaders in minutes played.

Demontrae Jefferson Texas Southern Tigers G38.70
Kurk Lee Drexel Dragons G38.46
Sammy Mojica Drexel Dragons G37.69
Nick Weiler-Babb Iowa State Cyclones G37.55
Jalen Adams Connecticut Huskies G37.45
Yuta Watanabe George Washington Colonials G37.31
Ahmad Caver Old Dominion Monarchs G37.25
Ryan Daly Delaware Blue Hens G37.23
Tyus Battle Syracuse Orange G37.15
Sa'eed Nelson American U. Eagles G37.09
J.R. Lynch Hartford Hawks G37.00
Eric Lockett Florida International Golden Panthers G37.00
Peyton Aldridge Davidson Wildcats F37.00
Jon Elmore Marshall Thundering Herd G37.00
Oshae Brissett Syracuse Orange F37.00
Emmett Naar St. Mary's Gaels G36.93
Justin Wright-Foreman Hofstra Pride G36.92
Devin Cannady Princeton Tigers G36.86
Frank Howard Syracuse Orange G36.77
Mike Smith Columbia Lions G36.73
Darius Thompson Western Kentucky Hilltoppers G36.71
Jair Bolden George Washington Colonials G36.69
Ahmaad Rorie Montana Grizzlies G36.62
Martez Walker Oakland Golden Grizzlies G36.57
Shake Milton Southern Methodist Mustangs G36.572
Matthew Butler Tenn-Martin Skyhawks G36.57
Laurynas Motuzis American U. Eagles G36.55
RJ Cole Howard Bison G36.53

now check out all the blue bloods on that list. all the top 25 programs !
(texas southern,drexel,hartford hawks, the gaels, the pride, the howard bisons and belmont bruins etc. )
if this was such a great strategy (playing your starters 40 minutes a game ) then perhaps duke,kansas and nova might catch on...
it's not.

What is JB supposed to do? Geno Thorpe left the team in a fit of irrationality. And JB is calculating that the drop off from Frank and Tyus to Howard Washington is too much to risk playing him 15-20 mpg.