For the first time in my life I am thankful for Duke

[EastCoast2]

G did not randomly transfer to SU. He was a gift to us from Coach K. After his freshman year, he had a talk with K, expressing his disappointment with playing time ... and with what he saw as his prospects for additional playing time in the future. They talked about where he might go. Being familiar with G's game, K suggested SU where he thought G would fit into JB's system. K obviously put in a good word for G (otherwise JB would never have taken one of K's players). It will be interesting to see him in our two games against Duke this year.

This is correct. He also wanted to play as a guard, and his freshman yr at duke they had Rivers, Curry, Dawkins, Cook, and Thornton.

 

[Cuse315Pat]

100% wrong. On one he screamed at Cooney cause he was the first one there. As soon as Ennis got to the bench he screamed at him. Then it was Grants turn. The other time he screamed at Cooney was in the first half after he didn't rotate and Ennis accidentally tripped a player. g came in then. That was first half, not 2nd after the 3 straight 3's. Hell one of the 3's was an NBA 3 with Cooney's hand in his face.

Now tell me about this 2nd half where G stopped 4-5 Patterson shots after Cooney got pulled.

Damn. I just read my original post and realized I worded it wrong my bad LOL. ALthough I don't think i mentioned the FT's.. What my post should have said was more along the lines of "He came up big I noticed after seeing Cooney give up those 3's in the second half, cause I noticed he played smothering defense at the 3pt line when he was in the game, he didn't let patterson get open looks"

My fault. I sort of made it sound like actual chronological events that led to it without meaning to.

As I said in my other reply, I didn't say G stopped 4-5 of his shots in the second half, I said Patterson missed his last four or five shots. Once again, that's my bad, I made my post sound like chronological events without realizing it. (No sense in editing it now)

Both timeouts I saw him screaming in Cooney's direction, and saw Cooney's dopey "I'm screwed" face. I figured he was yelling at him in each of them

 

[Cheriehoop]

It was the second half when he hit the 3 threes in a row and Cooney got the wrath.

Which had nothing to do with Gbinije who only played the last 5 seconds in the 2nd half . His 8 minutes all came in the first half. Those 3's happened with about 13 -14 minutes left in the game and Gbinijie wasn't subbed in for that.

 

[rrlbees]

Damn. I just read my original post and realized I worded it wrong my bad LOL. ALthough I don't think i mentioned the FT's.. What my post should have said was more along the lines of "He came up big I noticed after seeing Cooney give up those 3's in the second half, cause I noticed he played smothering defense at the 3pt line when he was in the game, he didn't let patterson get open looks" My fault. I sort of made it sound like actual chronological events that led to it without meaning to.

Still don't get it. G didn't come in for Cooney after the made 3's.

 

[Cuse315Pat]

Still don't get it. G didn't come in for Cooney after the made 3's.

THat's my point, I didn't mean for it to sound like I said he came in in the 2nd half. I'm saying after seeing Cooney give up those 3's in the second half I realized how much better G played him.

Basically I should have said "G played better D when he was in the game in the first half. And I hadn't noticed it as much until the second half when Cooney gave up the 3's to him" or something like that. Either way, I can't figure out a way to word it. Just that Patterson wasn't hitting anything in the first half, mainly with G on him so tightly. There wasn't any room.

 

[djcon57]

Not really. One was on cooney and the other was right in between cooney and ennis.

They just showed the 3s on sportscenter:
1 was on 100% on cooney.
1 was in between both of the them, but more Ennis
1 was just a great shot by Patterson. Cooney was in his face.

 

[Cuse315Pat]

They just showed the 3s on sportscenter:
1 was on 100% on cooney.
1 was in between both of the them, but more Ennis
1 was just a great shot by Patterson. Cooney was in his face.

Ahh was it more on Ennis? Bad call for me then. I wonder if it was the angle I saw it at that made me think Cooney was closer

 

[rrlbees]

They just showed the 3s on sportscenter: 1 was on 100% on cooney. 1 was in between both of the them, but more Ennis 1 was just a great shot by Patterson. Cooney was in his face.

Exactly what I had said. And the one when Cooney was in his face, was an NBA 3.

 

[Cuse315Pat]

Exactly what I had said. And the one when Cooney was in his face, was an NBA 3.

So I was still close to on point there.. Cooney gave up one three, Ennis/Cooney gave up a 2nd three, then the third three was on Cooney but he played tighter on that third one. Either way I edited my original post and just deleted that half a sentence that I confused everyone with about Cooney and G.

But I thought Cooney was the one who gave up the three he hit to take the lead? Did they show that fourth one on Sports Center? Cause I didn't see him get a hand up or anything. Regardless of it being another NBA 3 or not. Hand down. Man down.

 

[djcon57]

So I was still close to on point there.. Cooney gave up one three, Ennis/Cooney gave up a 2nd three, then the third three was on Cooney but he played tighter on that third one.

But I thought Cooney was the one who gave up the three he hit to take the lead? Did they show that fourth one on Sports Center? Cause I didn't see him get a hand up or anything. Regardless of it being another NBA 3 or not. Hand down. Man down.

Just rewatched again..
First 3 was at 37-27, all cooney's fault

2nd shown was 39-33, which on initial viewing was Ennis', but more I watch appears to be Cooney's job as Ennis was guarding the guy on the wing. Cooney needed to rotate.

3rd shown was at 48-46, NBA 3, Cooney was in good position, hands were in face. Great shot.

They didn't show his make at 39-30.

 

[Cuse315Pat]

Just rewatched again..
First 3 was at 37-27, all cooney's fault

2nd shown was 39-33, which on initial viewing was Ennis', but more I watch appears to be Cooney's job as Ennis was guarding the guy on the wing. Cooney needed to rotate.

3rd shown was at 48-46, NBA 3, Cooney was in good position, hands were in face. Great shot.

They didn't show his make at 39-30.

Ahh gotcha. Thanks for clearin that up. Surprised they didn't show the first one.. considering it was the start of three straight makes to bring them back.

 

[SU_Fan_in_VA]

The real question for me is how many more close games is Cooney going to struggle shooting the ball while Gbinije (in my opinion a better perimeter defender) sits on the bench while the opposing team keeps making threes and how many of these games do we expect to win. During the ACC games, Cooney is shooting about .244 but playing about 30-35 minutes a game while Gbinije's minutes have dropped to about 4-8. He is too talented to be sitting on the bench in my opinion.

 

[rrlbees]

The real question for me is how many more close games is Cooney going to struggle shooting the ball while Gbinije (in my opinion a better perimeter defender) sits on the bench while the opposing team keeps making threes and how many of these games do we expect to win. During the ACC games, Cooney is shooting about .244 but playing about 30-35 minutes a game while Gbinije's minutes have dropped to about 4-8. He is too talented to be sitting on the bench in my opinion. I can talk about conversations I had a couple of years ago about Gbinije with both Doc Rivers and Coach K, but many will think I am making the stuff up so I won't bother.

Do you want G to go in for CJ or Grant? Usually when the other team is making 3's, it's them getting an earful. This is maybe the 2nd time all year I have seen JB irate with a guard.

 

[Cuse315Pat]

Do you want G to go in for CJ or Grant? Usually when the other team is making 3's, it's them getting an earful. This is maybe the 2nd time all year I have seen JB irate with a guard.

First I just wanna say rrlbees, I'm sorry, I honestly thought you were just bein a dick about me calling out cooney at one point replying to me till I realized I worded my original post wrong lol.
The highlights showed Cooney solely gave up one, Ennis and he gave up one together, and he played good D on the one Patterson hit to take the lead. Unfortunately they don't show one of the first 3s that started the spurt, I swear I saw 3 that Cooney let up, that might have been the third, or I just didn't see a third time and just remembered it incorrectly. I was just trying to point out that G was nearly chest to chest with Patterson not letting him get any real looks, which was huge because any more open shots and it could have easily been a different outcome for the game.

And agreed, I think I only recall one other game where JB chewed out Ennis once or twice and Cooney when the other team was hitting open 3s. I think it was against Miami in the first half?

I would honestly like to see G take a couple minutes from both Grant and CJ. Not much, but a couple minutes. He is a forward after all.