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Message: [QUOTE="anomander, post: 2299550, member: 2766"] Are you really comparing Babers to Gerb? What did Gerb ever do as a HC? That's right nothing because he was a career coordinator when hired. Babers has proven to be a winner at 2 different levels. What was Gerb's identity? Other than insanity there wasn't one. Babers is uptemo spread with the power run game. I'm sorry but how are they even close to the same arguments? As far as losing to MTSU. Well no Shafer never did lose to anybody like that, but having to resort to a goddman fake extra point for a 2 point conversion (which was absolutely insance decision no matter how it turned out) against Nova, and OT vs CMU might as well be equivalent. That MTSU team would beat both of those teams by 3 td's. Babers has some equity with a win vs VT. We saw hope. Nothing your boy gave us ever gave a glimmer of hope. [/QUOTE]