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Message: [QUOTE="Newhouser, post: 2299966, member: 5155"] Interested as someone more in touch with the college football scene - where do you see our ceiling with DB's system? Or any system in today's college environment? I agree Dino needs time (though I do think you can coach kids up and put them in a better position to win then we have seen in some games during his tenure), but I wonder if there is any system that will allow us to consistently win 8 or 9 games in the arms race that college football is today. [/QUOTE]