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[QUOTE="tipphill, post: 2148606, member: 4809"]
then it would be interesting to know where the money generated by the sports programs goes. IDEALLY and hypothetically, lets say su gets to 45000-50000 fans a game, goes to a decent bowl game, is already getting a good share of acc money,where does all that money go?????
   before we talk about the  student customers it would be nice to know how those customers benefit in terms of enhanced facilities and education that are a result of successful athletic teams.
    further as pointed out by suorange44, the students experience is also enhanced in terms of socialization,commonality,and other intangibles.
     again, this is an investment. to do nothing is like holding a stock that remains status quo or losing money.
        to follow your plan,if su does not want to invest in growth, then drop from division 1 and go to to division 2 or 3. university of rochester for example has no div 1 programs and is far more successful than su in terms of academic standing, as are many other schools.
       su needs to stop the identity crisis and make tough decisions.
      su has been mired in mediocrity for years, the price tag  is outrageous for it. it has been essentially leaderless for years---hopefully this new chancellor will help.
   several privates have been successful such as wake forest,boston college, rice duke, smu, etc. what holds su back??? why don't our alumni donate???? thats one question question i would be asking. a second question would be, historically who have been the biggest donors over the years.
    i am also intimately familiar with su costs as my daughter also has a jd/mpa from there. she loved maxwell.
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