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Message: [QUOTE="OttoMets, post: 3353395, member: 716"] The expansion of "student slums" throughout the SEUNA area has had a bad effect on the Crouse/Marshall business district for the reason you note. I know neighbors who inexplicably love Panda West but don't go during the school year because they don't want to walk 30 minutes each way (kinda understandable, though I don't relate) and parking's a hassle (major eye roll). When 75% of Livingston and Sumner and Ackerman and Stratford were families 15 years ago, that type of business could make a better year-round go of it. Now that's an outlier and we've got a lot more of that quick-service 10-month-a-year establishment over there and the place is a ghost town in the summer. Negative feedback loop - they won't stay open because nobody's around, and nobody goes as a destination because it's no longer the sort of place where you can stroll around and pick where you want to eat. [/QUOTE]