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Exactly, one game OOC vs AQ and 8 home games...amazing that people disregard h/a games in college football. I'm well aware of the passion down there, Jesus you have bought the act hook line and sinker. I am not saying and please read what I am saying again...not saying the big east is better because I have no clue where you whipped out this strawman...I'm saying that the SEC schedules for success. You mentioned Florida's brutal schedule. Bowling Green, Jacksonville or Louisiana Lafayette keep you up all night? 7 home games and a neutral vs Georgia. They play 4 ranked teams SU plays 5, well now 4 since NW lost.

Listen, you humor me but as I stated in this thread ...

Georgia SOS = 13th
SU SOS = 61st

Highest ranked team SU has played will be USC which will be top 15

Georgia will play:
Florida top 10
South Carolina top 5

NW will not finish in the top 25 ... Rutty will not either when its all said and done ... chances are the only teams that will be ranked at season's end will be LVille, USC and possibly Cincy. Other than USC none of those teams would even finish in the top 6 of the SEC ... again LVille got all it could handle from a bad Kentucky squad. Tennessee would probably finish Top 25 except they have 5 ranked teams on their schedule ... and guess what all of them are in conference games ... why ... why would you make your schedule that much more daunting? They don't even need to leave conference play to have 3 top 10 teams on their schedule ... honestly explain this to me? Rutgers got all it could handle from Arkansas who is probably the 2nd or 3rd worst team in the SEC ... ahead of Auburn and probably Kentucky. Your whole line of thought doesn't even make sense for schools that play such a brutal conference schedule.[/quote]

SOS does not include home games. #2...read this for the umpteenth I am not saying the SEC is bad or not talented, they are. What I'm saying is they actually have people out there figuring out how to manipulate the schedules because why? They know it is a big $ business. I used to think like you did because I listened to the espn guys but my neighbors father in law who played at SU and coached HS for many years explained this to me and I listened without prejudice. This also applies to USC, they schedule way too hard and they have recruiting classes that in the top 5 every year. The PAC plays 9 conference games while the SEC plays 8...seriously, why do you think that happens?
 
Listen, you humor me but as I stated in this thread ...

Georgia SOS = 13th
SU SOS = 61st

Highest ranked team SU has played will be USC which will be top 15

Georgia will play:
Florida top 10
South Carolina top 5

NW will not finish in the top 25 ... Rutty will not either when its all said and done ... chances are the only teams that will be ranked at season's end will be LVille, USC and possibly Cincy. Other than USC none of those teams would even finish in the top 6 of the SEC ... again LVille got all it could handle from a bad Kentucky squad. Tennessee would probably finish Top 25 except they have 5 ranked teams on their schedule ... and guess what all of them are in conference games ... why ... why would you make your schedule that much more daunting? They don't even need to leave conference play to have 3 top 10 teams on their schedule ... honestly explain this to me? Rutgers got all it could handle from Arkansas who is probably the 2nd or 3rd worst team in the SEC ... ahead of Auburn and probably Kentucky. Your whole line of thought doesn't even make sense for schools that play such a brutal conference schedule.

SOS does not include home games. #2...read this for the umpteenth I am not saying the SEC is bad or not talented, they are. What I'm saying is they actually have people out there figuring out how to manipulate the schedules because why? They know it is a big $ business. I used to think like you did because I listened to the espn guys but my neighbors father in law who played at SU and coached HS for many years explained this to me and I listened without prejudice. This also applies to USC, they schedule way too hard and they have recruiting classes that in the top 5 every year. The PAC plays 9 conference games while the SEC plays 8...seriously, why do you think that happens?

SOS does not include home games. #2...read this for the umpteenth I am not saying the SEC is bad or not talented, they are. What I'm saying is they actually have people out there figuring out how to manipulate the schedules because why? They know it is a big $ business. I used to think like you did because I listened to the espn guys but my neighbors father in law who played at SU and coached HS for many years explained this to me and I listened without prejudice. This also applies to USC, they schedule way too hard and they have recruiting classes that in the top 5 every year. The PAC plays 9 conference games while the SEC plays 8...seriously, why do you think that happens?

Listen ... step 1 figure out how to quote properly trying to separate what you write from everyone else is god awful ... step two understand that I am not disagreeing that it has to do with money one bit ... its about bowl $$$ as well as home game generated revenue, because people here show up to games even when they play a Stony Brook type school. You said and I'll quote you "If the SEC was good they would win 80% of their bowl games" News flash bucko the SEC is good ... they schedule OOC lightly because of $$$ and the fact that they have a brutal in conference schedule and you still didn't comment on my original premise that the SEC went 6-2 in bowls last season against all AQ squads ... no other conference played a bowl slate that tough and maintained that win percentage ... you make some valid assertions but your premises are way off base. And Bees is right ... you can play 3 god awful slugs in the SEC because they pack their stadiums week in and week out ... even when they aren't very good ... the only program that has issues is Vandy and that is for a plethora of reasons. They had 48K people show up for Kentucky/Kent St ... and Kentucky is one of the worst teams in the SEC ... Cuse can't do that .. they need marquee OOC games to generate that type of attendance. So frankly maybe your neighbors father in law played at SU years ago but that is SU ... football is seen a lot differently down here then it is up there ... not sure why that is so hard to understand.
 
I think Colgate could get old if it is a yearly thing. If we play them every year and beat up on them will they really bring fans after 5 years of it? I think an every other year or one in three year matchup would be more beneficial. I would like to see us play Holy Cross again in a rotation with Colgate.

I think we should only play 9 BCS games if possible. Doing so allows you to make a Bowl at 3-6. While playing 10 teams means you have to go 4-6. If you play FSU/Clemson every year, Miami/VT some years, and then one of ND/PSU/Etc you could be looking at four built in Ls if we have a mediocre SU squad. With 9 BCS games then you only need to go 3-2 against your peers. While with 10 BCS games you need to go 4-2.

It is in SU's best interests to have a rotation every year of

Colgate/Holy Cross/Nova
Tulane/Rice/Army
Akron/Kent/Temple
ND/PSU/UCLA

That IMO is the perfect setup. It pretty much ensures SU a Bowl game every year. Which is important. It also hits up the areas we need to recruit. As a fan it would suck having 3 cupcake games, but it would suck more to not make a Bowl.

I agree...pretty nice set up what you present. On second thought tend to agree Colgate might get old after a while (as it isn't 1938 anymore) the mix of 1AA's should be heavy on Colgate but as you said throw in Holy Cross, Nova, Georgetown and I would add SUNY Albany + Stony Brook. Play local regional 1AAs that meet the minimum scholie count but also might be somewhat interesting to SU fans and possibly travel 500-1000 fans.
 
come on Tomcat - you know that was a different time
We played Missouri home and home in th 1980s, Florida and Tennessee in the 1990s and Auburn in the 2000s. Vandy in the 1980s too, I believe.

What has changed? Did the capacity of the Dome decrease? Did the Syracuse airport close? Did the SU program get so great that everyone is afraid to play against the Orangemen any more?

This myth that big time programs won't play in Syracuse is BS. Hire a competent staff to handle scheduling, have them work at it and it can be done. Michigan, Texas, Oklahoma, FSU, Ohio State, Nebraska, Penn State, Notre Dame, etc. have played at the Dome in the past.

Even if you are unable to provide a reason why these teams won't come to the Dome now, can't give me a reason, please explain to me why Rutgers and UConn have been able to bring big time programs to their home fields with recent scheduling announcements.

If they can do it, why the hell can't we?
 
First off I don't know why the quote thing didn't work, my bad on that.

SU won't get 48k period if they schedule like they have been. Maybe if they get Texas to come and they bring 10k but those days are gone when it comes to playing 10-11 aq's and winning 8 or more game, it's going to be harder to do in the ACC. I get the attendance thing and SU is between a rock and a hard place with it.

It seems that people get attendance mixed up with actually going out and beating somebody away from home. LSU did it vs Washington but no other SEC is doing it out of what, 14? The ACC, Big East and Pac 12 travel while the SEC stays in their comfortable dens and completely control their environment. I get the southern passion for football and admire it but just because they can get people to show up and we don't, it doesn't show an apples to apples comparison either because of how they manipulate their schedules. Yes, the SEC did well last bowl season but were 500 the year before. Let's get one to come up to play in the Pinstripe Bowl this winter and see how that goes.

As for the father in law guy, he is involved with scheduling and is quite up to date regarding this stuff. He runs some kind of efficiency/patterns type of business in Manhattan and believe me, knows his stuff. He isn't some older guy shaking his fist and yelling about the good old days and I wish I could get him on here because the guy is brilliant.
 
We played Missouri home and home in th 1980s, Florida and Tennessee in the 1990s and Auburn in the 2000s. Vandy in the 1980s too, I believe.

What has changed? Did the capacity of the Dome decrease? Did the Syracuse airport close? Did the SU program get so great that everyone is afraid to play against the Orangemen any more?

This myth that big time programs won't play in Syracuse is BS. Hire a competent staff to handle scheduling, have them work at it and it can be done. Michigan, Texas, Oklahoma, FSU, Ohio State, Nebraska, Penn State, Notre Dame, etc. have played at the Dome in the past.

Even if you are unable to provide a reason why these teams won't come to the Dome now, can't give me a reason, please explain to me why Rutgers and UConn have been able to bring big time programs to their home fields with recent scheduling announcements.

If they can do it, why the hell can't we?
What has happened is that the big time SEC schools have realized that they can make more money just filling their OOC schedules with non-AQ home games and not playing BCS programs on the road does not impact their national ranking or shot at the national title. In fact it is to their benefit, both financially and in the rankings to not risk losing a game on the road in a hostile environment.

I still think you can get Big10 and some Big12/PAC12 teams to travel - but my post was directed at the $EC and their lack of motivation to do home & home series with schools like SU (see UF never leaving Florida again since their last visit).
 
Even if you are unable to provide a reason why these teams won't come to the Dome now, can't give me a reason, please explain to me why Rutgers and UConn have been able to bring big time programs to their home fields with recent scheduling announcements.

If they can do it, why the hell can't we?
I had a great chat with Dr. on a recent visit to Texas. He's a huge Oklahoma fan and was very impressed with the Orangemen when they visited in 1997. "I've seen a lot of visiting quarterbacks play in Norman but there were only 3 that stood out. Donovan McNabb was one of those... he was a man among boys".

He explained why Oklahoma, and some other big-name programs, would likely never play in the Dome going forward. The reason is simple: they may lose. They look at the Dome as a potentially very hostile environment which can affect the outcome of the game.

The reason that they'll play at some other places (like those that you mentioned) is that they fully expect to win.
 
First off I don't know why the quote thing didn't work, my bad on that.

SU won't get 48k period if they schedule like they have been. Maybe if they get Texas to come and they bring 10k but those days are gone when it comes to playing 10-11 aq's and winning 8 or more game, it's going to be harder to do in the ACC. I get the attendance thing and SU is between a rock and a hard place with it.

It seems that people get attendance mixed up with actually going out and beating somebody away from home. LSU did it vs Washington but no other SEC is doing it out of what, 14? The ACC, Big East and Pac 12 travel while the SEC stays in their comfortable dens and completely control their environment. I get the southern passion for football and admire it but just because they can get people to show up and we don't, it doesn't show an apples to apples comparison either because of how they manipulate their schedules. Yes, the SEC did well last bowl season but were 500 the year before. Let's get one to come up to play in the Pinstripe Bowl this winter and see how that goes.

As for the father in law guy, he is involved with scheduling and is quite up to date regarding this stuff. He runs some kind of efficiency/patterns type of business in Manhattan and believe me, knows his stuff. He isn't some older guy shaking his fist and yelling about the good old days and I wish I could get him on here because the guy is brilliant.

But again because of the in conference piece of their schedule the SEC doesn't have to go anywhere OOC ... there is no benefit for them ... however it benefits other smaller programs to go into SEC country and try to scoop up a W ... they don't have to beat someone away from home that is an AQ ... and there is no incentive to do so ... if you want that to change you will have to address that with the pollsters. As for getting an SEC team in the Pinstripe Bowl ... well it would probably be a long shot but if so you are looking at the 7th or 8th best team in the conference and even that would be a helluva lot harder matchup than K-State of 2010.
 
I had a great chat with Dr. on a recent visit to Texas. He's a huge Oklahoma fan and was very impressed with the Orangemen when they visited in 1997. "I've seen a lot of visiting quarterbacks play in Norman but there were only 3 that stood out. Donovan McNabb was one of those... he was a man among boys".

He explained why Oklahoma, and some other big-name programs, would likely never play in the Dome going forward. The reason is simple: they may lose. They look at the Dome as a potentially very hostile environment which can affect the outcome of the game.

The reason that they'll play at some other places (like those that you mentioned) is that they fully expect to win.
Good info Jurrie. Thanks.

It is funny that we were able to schedule all these big time schools with no problem when we were a great program and had a reasonable chance of winning and now that the program has been driven into the ground, no one will come here because they are afraid of losing.

I don't buy it. I think our AD office has done an awful job scheduling top notch OOC games at home and frankly, are using their incompetence as an excuse to schedule 'home' games in New Jersey instead.

It is sad that at a time when home field advantage is desperately needed, we are so willing to throw it away and move games to a neutral/away venue. I don't think this is going to change until the AD changes unfortunately.
 
Good info Jurrie. Thanks.

It is funny that we were able to schedule all these big time schools with no problem when we were a great program and had a reasonable chance of winning and now that the program has been driven into the ground, no one will come here because they are afraid of losing.

I don't buy it. I think our AD office has done an awful job scheduling top notch OOC games at home and frankly, are using their incompetence as an excuse to schedule 'home' games in New Jersey instead.

It is sad that at a time when home field advantage is desperately needed, we are so willing to throw it away and move games to a neutral/away venue. I don't think this is going to change until the AD changes unfortunately.

The fact is a lot rides on when you schedule an opponent too .. I mean two seasons ago RU scheduling Arkansas would have seemed that much more daunting than it truly is now ... sometimes when you go out of your way to schedule a big time program you might just catch them at a bad time. Scheduling can be a double edge sword when you go and try to get a big name program on your slate.
 
Good info Jurrie. Thanks.

It is funny that we were able to schedule all these big time schools with no problem when we were a great program and had a reasonable chance of winning and now that the program has been driven into the ground, no one will come here because they are afraid of losing.

I don't buy it. I think our AD office has done an awful job scheduling top notch OOC games at home and frankly, are using their incompetence as an excuse to schedule 'home' games in New Jersey instead.

It is sad that at a time when home field advantage is desperately needed, we are so willing to throw it away and move games to a neutral/away venue. I don't think this is going to change until the AD changes unfortunately.


That was the past. Things have changed for the worst in CFB. You rarely see OOC road games any more. It has NOTHING to do with our record and NOTHING to do with the AD. Look at the Top 25 schools from the Big 5 conferences. That accounts for 21 schools and 70 open OOC slots. Yet there are only SEVEN combined road games from that group. Only 10% of the OOC games are road games.

A&M @ La Tech
A&M @ SMU
Miss St @ Troy
Texas @ Ole Miss
Oklahoma @ UTEP
FSU @ USF
Ore St @ BYU

That is it. Road OOC games just do not happen anymore. Which is another reason why the ACC going down to 8 games is bad for the fans.
 
That was the past. Things have changed for the worst in CFB. You rarely see OOC road games any more. It has NOTHING to do with our record and NOTHING to do with the AD. Look at the Top 25 schools from the Big 5 conferences. That accounts for 21 schools and 70 open OOC slots. Yet there are only SEVEN combined road games from that group. Only 10% of the OOC games are road games.

A&M @ La Tech
A&M @ SMU
Miss St @ Troy
Texas @ Ole Miss
Oklahoma @ UTEP
FSU @ USF
Ore St @ BYU

That is it. Road OOC games just do not happen anymore. Which is another reason why the ACC going down to 8 games is bad for the fans.

And a lot of those games look like easy road trips for the big school and their fans. Don't see too many 1,000 mile trips in that list.
 
quote="rrlbees, post: 375254, member: 96"]Their SEC schedule allows them to play 3 slugs. If we aren't careful we wont sell any season tixs. I stand by my proposed schedule. Not ridiculous but enough to draw some interest. We have to increase the season ticket base by both winning and having some attractive teams in the Dome.

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Miss St...they played zero AQ's OOC. as does A&M. Mississippi played just Texas OOC. Arkansas just rutty. Auburn just Clemson. This is how the SEC does it, they schedule like Rutgers and get credit for being incredible by espn. If the sec was so good they'd win 80% of their bowl games but they do not. Now I ask you this bees...what if each of those teams played an SU OOC schedule and god forbid they actually travel...you'd see SU types of numbers for some of them. You increase the ticket booth by winning and yes, an attractive team but going overboard is just going to keep it at a continual loop. Why do you think P never went 4-0 with all those good teams?[/quote]

I'll repeat what I already said, their in conference SOS is tough enough that it allows them to play a weak OOC schedule with the occassional made for TV tough one.
 
The SEC went 6-2 in Bowl games last year ... what more do you want ... and to take that a step further every single opponent was an AQ school ... unlike the BE who feasts on MAC teams to bolster their bowl status. No other major AQ conference comes close in terms of records combined with quality of bowl opponent.

This.
 
That was the past. Things have changed for the worst in CFB. You rarely see OOC road games any more. It has NOTHING to do with our record and NOTHING to do with the AD. Look at the Top 25 schools from the Big 5 conferences. That accounts for 21 schools and 70 open OOC slots. Yet there are only SEVEN combined road games from that group. Only 10% of the OOC games are road games.

A&M @ La Tech
A&M @ SMU
Miss St @ Troy
Texas @ Ole Miss
Oklahoma @ UTEP
FSU @ USF
Ore St @ BYU

That is it. Road OOC games just do not happen anymore. Which is another reason why the ACC going down to 8 games is bad for the fans.

I agree that going to an 8 game league schedule is bad for Syracuse fans provided we get no games at home against Notre Dame as a result and the talked about scheduling agreement with the SEC dies not come to fruitation.

The facts remain...

Rutgers has Arkansas, Penn State, UCLA and Miami coming to their stadium.

Connecticut has Michigan and Tennessee.

Pitt has Notre Dame and Penn State.

Even Temple has Notre Dame and Penn State coming (they had to do 2 for 1s but we are talking Temple).

We have one game against Penn State.

All these games are scheduled for this decade. All these schools are in the Northeast, they all draw about the same. Why can they get this done and not us?

To me, the goal should be to play a top notch game OOC every year, with the games home and home, so that SU fans are guaranteed to see a top notch program visit the Dome OOC every other season.
 
I think Colgate could get old if it is a yearly thing. If we play them every year and beat up on them will they really bring fans after 5 years of it? I think an every other year or one in three year matchup would be more beneficial. I would like to see us play Holy Cross again in a rotation with Colgate.

I think we should only play 9 BCS games if possible. Doing so allows you to make a Bowl at 3-6. While playing 10 teams means you have to go 4-6. If you play FSU/Clemson every year, Miami/VT some years, and then one of ND/PSU/Etc you could be looking at four built in Ls if we have a mediocre SU squad. With 9 BCS games then you only need to go 3-2 against your peers. While with 10 BCS games you need to go 4-2.

It is in SU's best interests to have a rotation every year of

Colgate/Holy Cross/Nova
Tulane/Rice/Army
Akron/Kent/Temple
ND/PSU/UCLA

That IMO is the perfect setup. It pretty much ensures SU a Bowl game every year. Which is important. It also hits up the areas we need to recruit. As a fan it would suck having 3 cupcake games, but it would suck more to not make a Bowl.


Winning is #1 but that schedule would sink attendance even more if we aren't winning big. I can't imagine a home schedule of Colgate, Tulane, Akron, Wake, Duke, NCSt and VT. People still wouldn't buy seasons and just buy for the games they want to see like maybe VT. We have to remember, everything is linked. Winning, attendancxe, recruiting, etc. It isn't just one or the other. Winning brings more fans. Winning brings better recruits. But attendance helps winning. Attendance helps recruiting. Recruiting helps winning. Recruiting helps attendance. You can't solely focus on one. That's why I said we have to be careful how we go about scheduling the 4th game now. Winning is great, but winning in front of an empty Dome for many games doesn't help us win even more or bring in even better recruits who will help us win. The goal has to be winning in front of a packed Dome on a consistent basis. Keep that goal in mind and then do the things necessary to achieve both.
 
I agree that going to an 8 game league schedule is bad for Syracuse fans provided we get no games at home against Notre Dame as a result and the talked about scheduling agreement with the SEC dies not come to fruitation.

The facts remain...

Rutgers has Arkansas, Penn State, UCLA and Miami coming to their stadium.

Connecticut has Michigan and Tennessee.

Pitt has Notre Dame and Penn State.

Even Temple has Notre Dame and Penn State coming (they had to do 2 for 1s but we are talking Temple).

We have one game against Penn State.

All these games are scheduled for this decade. All these schools are in the Northeast, they all draw about the same. Why can they get this done and not us?

To me, the goal should be to play a top notch game OOC every year, with the games home and home, so that SU fans are guaranteed to see a top notch program visit the Dome OOC every other season.


You don't know how many times I pointed out those OOC games by those teams when people said good teams won't come play here.
 
Winning is #1 but that schedule would sink attendance even more if we aren't winning big. I can't imagine a home schedule of Colgate, Tulane, Akron, Wake, Duke, NCSt and VT. People still wouldn't buy seasons and just buy for the games they want to see like maybe VT. We have to remember, everything is linked. Winning, attendancxe, recruiting, etc. It isn't just one or the other. Winning brings more fans. Winning brings better recruits. But attendance helps winning. Attendance helps recruiting. Recruiting helps winning. Recruiting helps attendance. You can't solely focus on one. That's why I said we have to be careful how we go about scheduling the 4th game now. Winning is great, but winning in front of an empty Dome for many games doesn't help us win even more or bring in even better recruits who will help us win. The goal has to be winning in front of a packed Dome on a consistent basis. Keep that goal in mind and then do the things necessary to achieve both.

People will only show up if we have 9-3 type of teams. But those type of seasons will only happen once a decade. The majority of the time we will have 6-6 type of teams. Going 6-6 and having 35k show up per game to see Holy Cross, Rice, Kent, Duke, Wake, MD, Clemson is better than having 40k show up per game and going 5-7 by replacing Rice with Michigan.

It sucks for the fans but making a Bowl should be the #1 priority. If we have 8 ACC games plus 2 OOC BCS games, it will make Bowls a lot less frequent.
 
I agree that going to an 8 game league schedule is bad for Syracuse fans provided we get no games at home against Notre Dame as a result and the talked about scheduling agreement with the SEC dies not come to fruitation.

The facts remain...

Rutgers has Arkansas, Penn State, UCLA and Miami coming to their stadium.

Connecticut has Michigan and Tennessee.

Pitt has Notre Dame and Penn State.

Even Temple has Notre Dame and Penn State coming (they had to do 2 for 1s but we are talking Temple).

We have one game against Penn State.

All these games are scheduled for this decade. All these schools are in the Northeast, they all draw about the same. Why can they get this done and not us?

To me, the goal should be to play a top notch game OOC every year, with the games home and home, so that SU fans are guaranteed to see a top notch program visit the Dome OOC every other season.

We have had ND and PSU as well in the last ten years, and have PSU going forward. Is Arkansas, UCLA, Miami really any different than FSU, UVA, Wake, Washington, Minny, NW, Illinois, Iowa who we have played in the last 10 years? No they are not. BTW Pitt and Temple have to do with PSU and ND being able to take over the building. A lot less risk when you have the majority of fans there. Not to mention those are rivalry games.

So you have provided two examples: Michigan and Tennessee. However who knows if those games get moved like our USC game.
 
The Patriot League has agreed to give football schollies going forward so the level of play in that league (and at Colgate) could be rising to a certain degree in the near future. So that game could be a tad bit more appealing competition wise. And I'd rather throw a bone to a local team rather than schedule a Maine or RI. Financially, the guarantee we pay to Colgate would be a lot less because travel costs are lower. And it might bring in more local fans to a game like that as opposed to a Maine or RI.

No one cares about your OOC schedule. If you get to a bowl, it helps recruiting. See Rutgirls. They are 5-0 playing nobody and getting national recognition because they are ranked and undefeated. In whose position would you rather be right now? SU or Rutgirls?
 
Hasn't Michigan come out publicly stating the home-and-home series against UConn was a mistake for them and that they don't plan on signing any such agreement going forward?

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...e-brandon-football-road-games-/1#.UHXEez0WK3w

It also appears that they're trying hard to get that game moved to MetLife, but it ultimately will be up to UConn.

http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/blogs...-Move-13-UConn-Game-to-MetLife-167316165.html
Looks like it. Though their one exception to not playing OOC games was against ND and ND is not going to play them OOC again.
 
we should call them say we will play you at metlife maybe 4 game series 2 at michigan,1 at carrier dome,1 at metlife
 
It is funny that we were able to schedule all these big time schools with no problem when we were a great program and had a reasonable chance of winning and now that the program has been driven into the ground, no one will come here because they are afraid of losing.
A loss at the Carrier Dome in the 90s is one thing. A loss there now is considered to be a "bad loss". Top teams have nothing to gain by playing at the Dome today. Get the program back to a respectable level and some of those games will return.
 

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