Class of 2020 G Kadary Richmond (NY/Brewster Academy) Portal to St Johns

[JustPherU]

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That answers my question and a damn good answer if I do say so myself.

 

[orangefog]

Because I'm a mod. I feel it's my duty to read everything posted on this board. Sometimes life gets in the way, but I read pretty much everything here.

People need to
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So, you will read ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING we post?

 

[chugg21]

This argument is silly. What he did the following year doesn't negate or impact in any way what he did and what we saw when he was at Syracuse. If you didn't see special talent from him during his freshman year, that's on you. It was very difficult to miss, which is why it was so frustrating to many of us when he left.

Him leaving basically broke me from super fan to normal fan. My making every game a must watch event stopped existing A.K.

 

[Rufus_13th]

There's no reality he's coming here, right?

I've been a fan of his for a while. Even checked out a SHU game every year and only rooted for him. Lol.

Idk...both parties seems done but who knows. He wants the bag and the blue bloods and VitaJohnnies are bidding.

That being said. This is probably a S16 team or better if he's got the ball for the Orange (yes I'm bias).

 

[shandeezy7]

This argument is silly. What he did the following year doesn't negate or impact in any way what he did and what we saw when he was at Syracuse. If you didn't see special talent from him during his freshman year, that's on you. It was very difficult to miss, which is why it was so frustrating to many of us when he left.

I guess my definition of "special talent" differs from yours. He's been a nice college player that had a really good senior year. I'd absolutely take him on next year's team, but I fail to see how a guy who has never won anything would have dramatically changed the fortunes of Syracuse basketball the prior three years. Maybe we would have had legitimate bubble teams instead of not even being in the tournament conversation at all at the end of the year? Sure, that is technically an upgrade.

 

[albanycuse]

I guess my definition of "special talent" differs from yours. He's been a nice college player that had a really good senior year. I'd absolutely take him on next year's team, but I fail to see how a guy who has never won anything would have dramatically changed the fortunes of Syracuse basketball the prior three years. Maybe we would have had legitimate bubble teams instead of not even being in the tournament conversation at all at the end of the year? Sure, that is technically an upgrade.

Your logic is flawed, 99% of college basketball never won anything because there’s only 1 national championship winner. He’s a playmaker who would of definitely made us better. And he did win something they won the NIT. Syracuse players haven’t won anything either.

 

[SWC75]

Brent Axe seems to think we have a chance here?

 

[bnoro]

Literally just clickbait. Brent knows where his bread is buttered.

 

[dasher]

Well, according to Dashers droll comments, Syracuse has no will to make a run at Kadary. Evan's is good, but he is not on the same level as Richmond.

I didn't say anything about Kadary that I remember. I don't believe we will be a player there but like I said, I don't remember saying anything about him.

 

[shandeezy7]

Your logic is flawed, 99% of college basketball never won anything because there’s only 1 national championship winner. He’s a playmaker who would of definitely made us better. And he did win something they won the NIT. Syracuse players haven’t won anything either.

Lol I'm not talking about winning a title. Seton Hall finished in 5th place in the Big East in 21/22 and got bounced in the first round of the NCAA tournament in one of the more embarrassing performances in recent NCAAT memory (scored 42 points in a 27 point loss to 9-seed TCU). They finished in 6th place in the Big East in 22/23 with no NCAAT appearance and a 17-16 record. Finally, they finished 4th in the Big East this past season and won an NIT tournament that literally 17 other programs turned down an invitation to participate in.

I agree that he would have made us better the past few years, but I think we are way off in terms of agreeing on how much better. If he couldn't help lead Seton Hall to a single NCAAT win in the past 3 years, then why do we think he would have led any of the past three dreadful Syracuse teams to one?

 

[albanycuse]

Lol I'm not talking about winning a title. Seton Hall finished in 5th place in the Big East in 21/22 and got bounced in the first round of the NCAA tournament in one of the more embarrassing performances in recent NCAAT memory (scored 42 points in a 27 point loss to 9-seed TCU). They finished in 6th place in the Big East in 22/23 with no NCAAT appearance and a 17-16 record. Finally, they finished 4th in the Big East this past season and won an NIT tournament that literally 17 other programs turned down an invitation to participate in.

I agree that he would have made us better the past few years, but I think we are way off in terms of agreeing on how much better. If he couldn't help lead Seton Hall to a single NCAAT win in the past 3 years, then why do we think he would have led any of the past three dreadful Syracuse teams to one?

What talent did seton hall have besides him? We were always missing someone who could distribute and he would of fit that role. JB ruined it for him so Im sure he has a bad taste in his mouth towards Syracuse.

 

[shandeezy7]

What talent did seton hall have besides him? We were always missing someone who could distribute and he would of fit that role. JB ruined it for him so Im sure he has a bad taste in his mouth towards Syracuse.

Maybe Kadary on this year’s SU team could’ve gotten them into the tournament as a bubble team, but it’s not like he was an exceptional high-impact guy the prior three years, which is the entire point I’ve tried to make here. Prior to his breakout senior season, his career numbers were 8.1 ppg, 3.8 rpg and 3.8 apg on 42% shooting.

I get that he’s a plus defender but none of that screams major difference maker, especially when these Syracuse teams the past few years have been more than just one guy away (and also when you factor in that I doubt Mintz would’ve ended up in Syracuse if Kadary was still here).

 

[SWC75]

Literally just clickbait. Brent knows where his bread is buttered.

In this era of the portal, I'm reminded of the traditional conundrum regarding time travel: what I you got back in time and accidently kill your father before he met your mother? Would you then disappear?

There's nothing so absurd it could not happen.

 

[djcon57]

Maybe Kadary on this year’s SU team could’ve gotten them into the tournament as a bubble team, but it’s not like he was an exceptional high-impact guy the prior three years, which is the entire point I’ve tried to make here. Prior to his breakout senior season, his career numbers were 8.1 ppg, 3.8 rpg and 3.8 apg on 42% shooting.

I get that he’s a plus defender but none of that screams major difference maker, especially when these Syracuse teams the past few years have been more than just one guy away (and also when you factor in that I doubt Mintz would’ve ended up in Syracuse if Kadary was still here).

 

[albanycuse]

Maybe Kadary on this year’s SU team could’ve gotten them into the tournament as a bubble team, but it’s not like he was an exceptional high-impact guy the prior three years, which is the entire point I’ve tried to make here. Prior to his breakout senior season, his career numbers were 8.1 ppg, 3.8 rpg and 3.8 apg on 42% shooting.

I get that he’s a plus defender but none of that screams major difference maker, especially when these Syracuse teams the past few years have been more than just one guy away (and also when you factor in that I doubt Mintz would’ve ended up in Syracuse if Kadary was still here).

That’s what happens when you dont have enough talent around you, your stats suffer. That’s exactly what im trying to tell you.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

In this era of the portal, I'm reminded of the traditional conundrum regarding time travel: what I you got back in time and accidently kill your father before he met your mother? Would you then disappear?

There's nothing so absurd it could not happen.

What if I have to get my Mother to the "Enchantment Under The Sea" dance so she can meet my Father in the first place?

 

[tbonezone]

What if I have to get my Mother to the "Enchantment Under The Sea" dance so she can meet my Father in the first place?

that'll cost you approximately 1.21 gigawatts!

 

[shandeezy7]

That’s what happens when you dont have enough talent around you, your stats suffer. That’s exactly what im trying to tell you.

Then how did Judah average 17.5 ppg, 4.5 apg and 2.7 rpg on better (although still not great) shooting the last two years on teams just as bad - if not worse - than Kadary had?

 

[FrancoPizza]

Then how did Judah average 17.5 ppg, 4.5 apg and 2.7 rpg on better (although still not great) shooting the last two years on teams just as bad - if not worse - than Kadary had?

Simple. He never passed.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Ehhh hate talking about this still, but Richmond is significantly better than Judah especially on the defensive end. The metrics aren’t close there. Offensively it’s a bit closer, but Kadary is better there too. Kadary has a significantly higher assist rate.

 

[Trueblue25]

No, we don’t. Best returning player is Bell. No other proven scorers. I think Freeman will be really good, but he won’t make us a favorite. No dominant inside guy.
Orange colored glasses aren’t becoming.
We could be really good, but would not be a preseason favorite to win the title. We would be behind Duke and UNC in the league, at least.

This forum is over the top harsh on JJ. Starling’s the only player we have that can create against top 40 programs. I get it, he’s a bad defender. But not a proven scorer?

 

[Cusefan0307]

This forum is over the top harsh on JJ. Starling’s the only player we have that can create against top 40 programs. I get it, he’s a bad defender. But not a proven scorer?

He takes less criticism than others who played that position. Outside of creating for himself there’s not Anything else he’s above average at.

 

[AZOrange]

This forum is over the top harsh on JJ. Starling’s the only player we have that can create against top 40 programs. I get it, he’s a bad defender. But not a proven scorer?

I’m not so sure he’s a bad straight up man defender. Where he looked lost was on switches.

 

[shu 49]

This forum is over the top harsh on JJ. Starling’s the only player we have that can create against top 40 programs. I get it, he’s a bad defender. But not a proven scorer?

I think he is capable of being a good defender but he needsmore rest so he can leave it all on the court. We have had a tendency for guys to not give 100%. We can not allow that on defense if we wanna be good. As our oline coach said about bench time, bench willtell your ass to get down and play hard defense or it stays there. Thats it period. All they need to know. Play hard d or dont play at all.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

I’m not so sure he’s a bad straight up man defender. Where he looked lost was on switches.

We all assume he was not doing what he was supposed to. Could have been others screwing up/ignoring the protocols.