Class of 2020 G Kadary Richmond (NY/Brewster Academy) Portal to St Johns

[Sbucketball]

Yeah I just don't see why JJ can't be a good defender. To be clear, he wasn't, but there's really no excuse for a guy like him so hopefully he tightens it up.

 

[atlanticuse]

Simple. He never passed.

He passed on the NBA last year!

 

[FrancoPizza]

I’m not so sure he’s a bad straight up man defender. Where he looked lost was on switches.

Switching and defending the PNR is a huge part of defense.

 

[CousCuse]

Fran went out and got Kyle McCord for his QB and that really set the one for the expectations for the football program. All the subsequent recruiting has fed off of that as well as the focus of the team and what they hope to achieve. Kadary would do the same for the basketball program.

 

[shandeezy7]

Ehhh hate talking about this still, but Richmond is significantly better than Judah especially on the defensive end. The metrics aren’t close there. Offensively it’s a bit closer, but Kadary is better there too. Kadary has a significantly higher assist rate.

I’m not comparing the two, just pointing out that it actually is possible to average more than 8, 3 and 3 on a bad team if you are a good player. But since we do want to compare, Judah does have a higher career true shooting %, effective field goal %, higher player efficiency rating and only 288 less points produced than Kadary despite playing 58 fewer games. Where they are equals is that both never actually won a thing.

 

[CousCuse]

I’m not comparing the two, just pointing out that it actually is possible to average more than 8, 3 and 3 on a bad team if you are a good player. But since we do want to compare, Judah does have a higher career true shooting %, effective field goal %, higher player efficiency rating and only 288 less points produced than Kadary despite playing 58 fewer games. Where they are equals is that both never actually won a thing.

Every team that's after Kadary are teams that think they can win the championship with him. Those teams wouldn't want Judah. Kadary will make a lot more money with his NIL than Judah will with a G-league contract.

 

[albanycuse]

Then how did Judah average 17.5 ppg, 4.5 apg and 2.7 rpg on better (although still not great) shooting the last two years on teams just as bad - if not worse - than Kadary had?

We’re going in circles here . You don’t get it.

 

[Orangezoo]

I’m not so sure he’s a bad straight up man defender. Where he looked lost was on switches.

That was a team trend - Maliq was good at it but overall we didn’t function as a team defensively very well when switching. Became a bit of a malaise that infected everyone. Judah might not have been patient 0 but his gambling made running our defense much harder than it should have been.

Not making excuses for JJ either just something that was pretty obvious all year.

 

[littlereg]

That was a team trend - Maliq was good at it but overall we didn’t function as a team defensively very well when switching. Became a bit of a malaise that infected everyone. Judah might not have been patient 0 but his gambling made running our defense much harder than it should have been.

Not making excuses for JJ either just something that was pretty obvious all year.

I dont know to me it’s hard to ignore how bad JJ was on ball defending. I can’t remember watching a Syracuse guard get blown by so easily. Judah a good amount of the time got blown by because he was always half way up the court bailing fora steal, JJ would be straight up defending at the arch and get cooked so often. it’s not like we had a tree anchoring the middle for him to allow that to happen as part of scheming or something. I hope it was just the stink of the team around him but I can’t ignore it.

 

[Orangezoo]

I dont know to me it’s hard to ignore how bad JJ was on ball defending. I can’t remember watching a Syracuse guard get blown by so easily. Judah a good amount of the time got blown by because he was always half way up the court bailing fora steal, JJ would be straight up defending at the arch and get cooked so often. it’s not like we had a tree anchoring the middle for him to allow that to happen as part of scheming or something. I hope it was just the stink of the team around him but I can’t ignore it.

For certain you can’t deny a lot of the poor individuals defensive lapses and performance. Was it a symptom of the overall issues and bad attitudes or just being poor defenders? That is the question I expect we will find out soon enough.

 

[dasher]

I don't want to raise anyone's expectation's but we have talked to Kadary.

 

[orangefog]

I don't want to raise anyone's expectation's but we have talked to Kadary.

IT’S HAPPENING!!!!

 

[Orangezoo]

I don't want to raise anyone's expectation's but we have talked to Kadary.

 

[MSOrange]

 

[RF2044]

I don't want to raise anyone's expectation's but we have talked to Kadary.

Nearly impossible to envision this coming to fruition -- but, cool.

 

[hoopsupstate]

It doesn’t cost you anything to talk. Getting a commitment will.

 

[CA Monk]

I don't want to raise anyone's expectation's but we have talked to Kadary.

Too Late:

 

[Orangezoo]

Nearly impossible to envision this coming to fruition -- but, cool.

For sure a lot would have to break and addup$ in our favor

 

[Scotch]

For sure a lot would have to break and addup$ in our favor

Could we do the McCord playbook - go to some whales with a specific proposition for a specific player...

 

[Orangezoo]

Could we do the McCord playbook - go to some whales with a specific proposition for a specific player...

In this case it would make sense - while it does nothing to interfere with future recruits all the same

 

[two3zone]

I don't want to raise anyone's expectation's but we have talked to Kadary.

 

[Orangezoo]

 

[CousCuse]

I don't want to raise anyone's expectation's but we have talked to Kadary.

Nearly impossible to envision this coming to fruition -- but, cool.

It's just business. We have everything except a proven top point guard to make a deep run in the NCAAT. Kadary is a top proven point guard looking for a team that needs his talent to lead them deep into the NCAAT. Nothing else matters. He would though get the largest ovation in dome history if he returns along with a season of record breaking crowds. There is a huge amount of love for Kadary in the Orange fan base.

 

[Scotch]

In this case it would make sense - while it does nothing to interfere with future recruits all the same

He's also a high profile enough player where I don't think anyone on the current roster would be too bent out of shape about him getting paid.

 

[Scotch]

Also for people thinking about whether or not Leffew was an overpay, imagine if Leffew's salary could get you 2/3 of the way to Kadary. I'm pulling this out of thin air but makes you think about the importance of budgeting.