Class of 2020 G Kadary Richmond (NY/Brewster Academy) Portal to St Johns

[Cuse99&01]

Oklahoma is certainly a weird choice.

And they have now already signed 4 guards from the portal.

 

[littlereg]

I need to smoke that good good of whatever y’all are smoking that makes you think kadary doesn’t make this team significantly better.

 

[two3zone]

I need to smoke that good good of whatever y’all are smoking that makes you think kadary doesn’t make this team significantly better.

Ive had it, still doesn't make sense to me.

 

[jordoo]

I need to smoke that good good of whatever y’all are smoking that makes you think kadary doesn’t make this team significantly better.

He can control a game by himself (with a lower level group of players) without being able to shoot! He makes everyone better without being a threat to shoot. I get it, I'd love to add another guard who shoots 37%+ from 3pt. I'm not convinced a player like that improves us as much as Kadary does though. As a portal PG I think you would be hard pressed to find a guy that was more of a sure thing.

 

[Cuse House]

I need to smoke that good good of whatever y’all are smoking that makes you think kadary doesn’t make this team significantly better.

His stats are eerily similar to Judah's in regards to efficiency. Judah scored a little more, and Richmond rebounded better. Their shooting percentages are practically identical, same with assists/turnovers. It is not as simple as some want to make it out to be. The fit to the team makes a difference.

 

[Nicknack]

I'm in the camp which REALLY would be excited to have Kadary back. As for his 3pt shooting, yeah, just not a big part of his game. He isn't necessarily bad at it, just doesn't take more than 1-2 a game (avg is at 1.4), so he doesn't force it. Last year was rough, but the year before he shot 44.4% and overall is at about 34%. He does so many other things really well!

 

[djcon57]

We need a pass first guard who can hit open threes at a clip of 37-40% for this team to really be good.

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Here's the list from last year that shot at least 37% and averaged 5 assists.

9 guys. (8 really since one only shot 17 3s)

In all of college basketball.

And you want us to find one of them.

 

[721Comstock]

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Here's the list from last year that shot at least 37% and averaged 5 assists.

9 guys. (8 really since one only shot 17 3s)

In all of college basketball.

And you want us to find one of them.

Yes!

Of course!

 

[RF2044]

His stats are eerily similar to Judah's in regards to efficiency. Judah scored a little more, and Richmond rebounded better. Their shooting percentages are practically identical, same with assists/turnovers. It is not as simple as some want to make it out to be. The fit to the team makes a difference.

Actually, it IS that simple. Because it isn't just about comparing stats.

One is a natural lead guard, who makes his teammates better. The other is more athletic / more dynamic, but doesn't.

The stats might be a wash, but the capabilities aren't the same. You nailed it with your last sentence, though.

 

[Cuse House]

Actually, it IS that simple. Because it isn't just about comparing stats.

One is a natural lead guard, who makes his teammates better. The other is more athletic / more dynamic, but doesn't.

The stats might be a wash, but the capabilities aren't the same. You nailed it with your last sentence, though.

You're right its not just about stats. I have watched this program try to plug whatever pieces together for the last however many years and fail. I am very happy with the adds so far in the portal. We are bigger, more experienced, and I think overall a better team. The pieces fit better than they have in years. We have guys to play their natural positions. I disagree that Richmond makes us substantially better due to his style of play. If he comes here, I hope he crushes it and proves me wrong. Still do not think he comes back, but time will tell.

 

[Funk Doc]

I don't think that he will be coming here as well, but if he wanted to, there's no way you tell him no, and you're on crazy pills if you don't think he makes this team better!

 

[Cuse House]

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Here's the list from last year that shot at least 37% and averaged 5 assists.

9 guys. (8 really since one only shot 17 3s)

In all of college basketball.

And you want us to find one of them.

I never said 5 assists and plus or minus 1 per game is not a big deal. 154 guys averaged 4 assists per game. Richmond averaged 5 assists but also averaged 3.1 turnovers per game, which would have led the team. As stated, I like Richmond's game and I was not happy when he left. Right now we essentially have one really good shooter, an unproven freshman shooter in Moore, and a few guys hovering in the low 30's. Have we all not watched our offense these past few seasons? We may not need 37% but 28% is not helping a major weakness this team has.

 

[littlereg]

Ive had it, still doesn't make sense me.

how’s the high?

 

[MikeSU02]

So did you read the second and third sentence or just completely ignore it?

If you have one person that is not buying in, it allows others to not buy in. That's all I'm saying. It's important, especially when that person already has a history with us.

Talent isn't everything. How many "talented and skilled" NBA teams went out in the first round of the playoffs this year? How many "talented and skilled" NCAA teams didn't make it out of opening weekend?

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but talent is always the top priority. Buying in is on the coach as much as it is on the players. Some are just malcontents and that's just that. A lot is on the culture and expectations built within the program.

Also, the NBA?

The western conference will be the 1, 2, 3 and then either the 4 or 5 seed.

The east is the 1, 2, the 4 or 5 seed and the only reason the 3 seed lost is because one of the top three players in the NBA wasn't playing and the second best player was barely playing.

The top teams that are talented and skilled made it.

In Zach Lowe's all nba (1st through 3rd) 8 out of 15 guys are moving on. Because of how stacked the west is, some guys have to lose (eg: Bron, Durant, AD, Book, etc).

UConn will have between 3-5 guys drafted in the NBA draft.

It's not everything, but our roster right now has no high level talent outside of Donnie potentially being good for a rook and praying that Westry pops off.

 

[MikeSU02]

I think some are missing the sarcasm here...

To be fair, OP didn't use the right font.

 

[grepal]

I never said 5 assists and plus or minus 1 per game is not a big deal. 154 guys averaged 4 assists per game. Richmond averaged 5 assists but also averaged 3.1 turnovers per game, which would have led the team. As stated, I like Richmond's game and I was not happy when he left. Right now we essentially have one really good shooter, an unproven freshman shooter in Moore, and a few guys hovering in the low 30's. Have we all not watched our offense these past few seasons? We may not need 37% but 28% is not helping a major weakness this team has.

Kids do get better. Just hoping the team does too. Hard in the portal era to figure out how much better or worse off a team will be. That is why we need to let the coaches do their thing. For the record I hate portal hoops.

 

[Cuse House]

Kids do get better. Just hoping the team does too. Hard in the portal era to figure out how much better or worse off a team will be. That is why we need to let the coaches do their thing. For the record I hate portal hoops.

Same here, I long for the days of watching GMac and others having their senior days after 4 years on the hill. I am confident in the direction Red wants to go. It is hard watching Cuse basketball struggle.

 

[rrlbees]

Props to Red for reaching out to him. I had my doubts he would but you can never say never. Time does heal some wounds. I don’t know why, but Kadary didn’t like SU from almost the minute he got here and decided early on he wasn’t staying. Blackwell even mentioned it on a podcast. He also torched a couple coaches on the way out the door. Also, I’m sure some will remember that stupid video he and Woody posted from a “Covid party”.

Hopefully everyone just says forget the past and let’s start anew. I think he’d be almost a perfect add to this group. Not just as a PG but he has a knack for rebounding which would offset others some.

Make it happen Red.

 

[Cuse99&01]

I never said 5 assists and plus or minus 1 per game is not a big deal. 154 guys averaged 4 assists per game. Richmond averaged 5 assists but also averaged 3.1 turnovers per game, which would have led the team. As stated, I like Richmond's game and I was not happy when he left. Right now we essentially have one really good shooter, an unproven freshman shooter in Moore, and a few guys hovering in the low 30's. Have we all not watched our offense these past few seasons? We may not need 37% but 28% is not helping a major weakness this team has.

Agree. This team could use more/better 3pt shooters. But it also needs better point guard play in terms of running an offense, distributing, and leading. As things stand right now they have one pg. A transfer that put up solid numbers in a lower level conference. And lets not fool ourselves thinking he is a knock down 3pt shooter either (34% in the CAA). I know the thought is Westry could also fill that role, but with his history of injuries and not really playing pg at the college level to this point we can not bank on that. Another issue from the pg position (aside from 3pt shooting) that people complained about all last year was the lack of defense. Kadary would be a major upgrade in that regard.

 

[djcon57]

I never said 5 assists and plus or minus 1 per game is not a big deal. 154 guys averaged 4 assists per game. Richmond averaged 5 assists but also averaged 3.1 turnovers per game, which would have led the team. As stated, I like Richmond's game and I was not happy when he left. Right now we essentially have one really good shooter, an unproven freshman shooter in Moore, and a few guys hovering in the low 30's. Have we all not watched our offense these past few seasons? We may not need 37% but 28% is not helping a major weakness this team has.

Ok, let's change to 4 apg, >35% from 3, and at least 50 3 attempts.

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Again, I think you are just throwing numbers around and aren't really sure what the level of player will take.

Look at some of those names. Javon Small. Dug McDaniel. Elijah Hawkins.

We weren't close with them by all accounts.

 

[two3zone]

how’s the high?

 

[UpstateSM]

GoOd ThInG rEd DoEsN't LiStEn To SoMe oF yOu!!

 

[grepal]

Props to Red for reaching out to him. I had my doubts he would but you can never say never. Time does heal some wounds. I don’t know why, but Kadary didn’t like SU from almost the minute he got here and decided early on he wasn’t staying. Blackwell even mentioned it on a podcast. He also torched a couple coaches on the way out the door. Also, I’m sure some will remember that stupid video he and Woody posted from a “Covid party”.

Hopefully everyone just says forget the past and let’s start anew. I think he’d be almost a perfect add to this group. Not just as a PG but he has a knack for rebounding which would offset others some.

Make it happen Red.

It would be great to see him come back full circle. I feel that way about Deuce coming back for a final year on the gridiron.

 

[Cuse House]

Ok, let's change to 4 apg, >35% from 3, and at least 50 3 attempts.

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49.

Again, I think you are just throwing numbers around and aren't really sure what the level of player will take.

Look at some of those names. Javon Small. Dug McDaniel. Elijah Hawkins.

We weren't close with them by all accounts.

Of course it would have to be a high caliber guy. We are Syracuse, just haven’t acted like it much the last decade. I still like the other guys we brought in.

Regardless, thank you for taking the time to get the stats. I certainly would prefer Richmond over most, but I wish we had other options. It’s too bad Reynolds never portaled. My fear is another year of stagnant half court offense with lackluster shooting.

 

[Cuseball]

Would be an interesting fit considering I believe Red's vision is to be up tempo and Kadary doesn't fit that. However, talent wise you make an exception. I've been a SHU season ticket holder the last few years and while he's still flawed he's shown great growth. He can get to his spots/whatever spot he wants. Still not a good shooter but does everything else exceptional. Always a triple double threat and while he still floats a little bit, he was in better shape / more engaged this year.

Not sure how much say he'll have / where his camp will want him to go. Rumor friends of mine told me was his mid-season "injury" was NIL related.

Personally, would welcome him back with open arms if we have the chance to land him.

The St. Johns board and fans were posting a lot about Kadary taking a three game break mid January due to NIL renegotiations. That 3 game stretch cost the hall an NCAA berth. If any of that true that would be truly awful. Let's assume it's not. While unlikely, he would be an amazing add.