Class of 2022 - G Melvin Council Jr. (NY) Portal from St. Bonaventure | Syracusefan.com

Class of 2022 G Melvin Council Jr. (NY) Portal from St. Bonaventure

Kid is a winner and makes plays. He's a much better version of JJ, IMO. How would he pair with JJ? I don't know. But he'll be an asset to a winning program.
 
Cusefan69 said:
So this guy shot 29% from 3 point land? Is that accurate?
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Yes that's the main thing that people are concerned about. If we already had some great outside shooters, I'd really like him. But we don't.....
 
Where would he start? He isn't replacing JJ. He isn't starting at the point and isn't big enough to play a forward?
 
phil77 said:
Where would he start? He isn't replacing JJ. He isn't starting at the point and isn't big enough to play a forward?
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If he was brought in he’d absolutely be the starting point guard. As a non-shooter I think his skills are too similar to JJ so I would go in a different direction
 
Orangefizz said:
If he was brought in he’d absolutely be the starting point guard. As a non-shooter I think his skills are too similar to JJ so I would go in a different direction
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Nah if he is brought in, he won't be our starting point guard.
 
jsween said:
Say what you want, but he was one of the top 5 guards in the A10 this year, no question. Lightning fast and all around great player.
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All good man. He brings allot no doubt. We are short on sharp shooters though and getting a guy who can at least get us 36% on 3 at the PG would be a big.
 
Cusefan0307 said:
Council is better than Claude. He doesn’t turn it over and he plays defense. Shooting from deep are poor for both, but he checks 2 of 3 boxes that Claude does not.
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Council, Ballard, Kingz and Kyle in the portal plus Donnie, JJ, Petar, Kiyan, Womack, Sadiq, and Fennell. Pickup one more backup less heralded (non p5) big man with potential and another guard of the same and see what we can do. I’d love to see them look at maybe even filling the roster with a couple d2 kids as a flyer as well given we can go to 15. I’ll just caveat to say give me bigger names if we can land them all day long (as some have been tossed out there) but this would be a much better class that makes sense than what we have done in the portal to date and by a wide margin.

That team still has its flaws but has a lot to work with as well as a capable and experienced starting 5 and some shooters to put on the floor who aren’t just one dimensional.
 
SUFan44 said:

One to watch here. From Rochester. Would be an immediate starter.
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Just a question? I’m a longtime fan and may be unduly concerned with the level of hoops recruits SU has shown interest. Could it all be aRed Herring? One can only hope! I’m just a fan no particular expertise, however, I have hadn’t tix and followed SU sports before JB and Dave Bing suited up. SU has had a remarkable record in hoops buoyed by great recruiting and coaching for decades. Last years portal class was sub par to say the least. So far, and it’s early, indications are that interest players do not have the skill sets SU needs. Those skills are as follows drop dead 3pt shooters that can play decent D, a rim protector (may have landed one), a PG who can shooter a adversities wing that can score 3 levels and defend. I hope it’s the Red Herring and all the powers to be are far cagey than I anticipate and have the where with all to compete. If not a re-run of 2024-2025 is imminent. Old man out. Peace
 
Cusefan0307 said:
Council is better than Claude. He doesn’t turn it over and he plays defense. Shooting from deep are poor for both, but he checks 2 of 3 boxes that Claude does not.
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I probably won't watch full games of these guys unless things get more serious with them, but just going off those transfer portal scouting report videos, it feels like Council's handle is relatively poor for a lead guard. I don't think Claude's is great either from the bits I've seen but it does seem better.

I also think Claude's shooting mechanics are much better, though you could reasonably argue thats actually a good thing for Council because you could maybe rebuild his shot and see improvements, whereas Claude may just not have it in him lol. Council seems like he badly needs someone to coach him on how to shoot a jumper.
 
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Melancer46 said:
I probably won't watch full games of these guys unless things get more serious with them, but just going off those transfer portal scouting report videos, it feels like Council's handle is relatively poor for a lead guard. I don't think Clause's is great either from the bits I've seen but it does seem better.

I also think Claude's shooting mechanics are much better, though you could reasonably argue thats actually a good thing for Council because you could maybe rebuild his shot and see improvements, whereas Claude may just not have it in him lol. Council seems like he badly needs someone to coach him on how to shoot a jumper.
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I’m curious what kind of action that doesn’t result in the similar issues we saw playing JJ and Judah you could run with JJ and Claude.

If you get a guy like Kingz, who seems to really like that corner 3, that helps you avoid things getting too crowded. Off the bench young Kiyan and Womack complement as well as contributors who are shooters first at this point in their development at this level. Donnie can play the pick and pop game as well to keep the lane open. Maybe that alone , plus having someone like Kyle and maybe , hopefully Ballard, who is more about the lob and dish off than clogging the lane, can make it work better vs what we saw with that dual combo guard approach with Red year 1.

Good points on the handle though which does stand out a bit if you really hone it on it.
 
Orangezoo said:
Council, Ballard, Kingz and Kyle in the portal plus Donnie, JJ, Petar, Kiyan, Womack, Sadiq, and Fennell. Pickup one more backup less heralded (non p5) big man with potential and another guard of the same and see what we can do. I’d love to see them look at maybe even filling the roster with a couple d2 kids as a flyer as well given we can go to 15. I’ll just caveat to say give me bigger names if we can land them all day long (as some have been tossed out there) but this would be a much better class that makes sense than what we have done in the portal to date and by a wide margin.

That team still has its flaws but has a lot to work with as well as a capable and experienced starting 5 and some shooters to put on the floor who aren’t just one dimensional.
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good post.
In JJ, Kyle, Donnie, Sadiq, and Fennell we have 5 very talented players. We lack a great shooter, A great Point, and another Center. If we cant afford three more studs than i would put my money first and foremost towards a great point. Second a really good three that can shoot and drive and finally another Center. Between Petar Kyle Donnie and Sadiq we have size. What we
 
Melancer46 said:
I probably won't watch full games of these guys unless things get more serious with them, but just going off those transfer portal scouting report videos, it feels like Council's handle is relatively poor for a lead guard. I don't think Claude's is great either from the bits I've seen but it does seem better.

I also think Claude's shooting mechanics are much better, though you could reasonably argue thats actually a good thing for Council because you could maybe rebuild his shot and see improvements, whereas Claude may just not have it in him lol. Council seems like he badly needs someone to coach him on how to shoot a jumper.
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You can forget about improving a person's shooting at this point. Sure, they can make some improvement but not much. The one area that they can improve dramatically is at the foul line as that is a fixed shot and can be honed in. Not much can be done otherwise.
 
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